What about money? You can't force me to want (or not want) someone's goods and services. If you're worried about large scale automation and so forth, I'm fine with something like UBI.
1) Lesser cost: people start to not want each other for anything, and therefore lose income of any kind, and are gradually bred out of existence like with horses and oxen in the 20th century
2) Greater cost: bot swarms separate people and can bring about any sort of effect at scale, with people powerless to stop it — eg destroy reputations, bring about support for wars, take over control, or really anything
How did you jump from AI writing to humans becoming extinct? People find each other plenty interesting. Those who want to start families, work together, etc. can always do so.
As for misuse, you are again catastrophizing. Just because a thing can be misused doesn't mean it will. That's obviously not the goal of AI.
Horses and oxen aren’t extinct. Just nowhere near their peak where they had been before cars and tractors.
They just won’t have as many children. It is already happening.
People need each other less and less thanks to technology. And they won’t be paying each other for anything when they have AI. Soon romantic relationships will be disrupted also, it’s called a “superstimulus” (eg when birds prefer fake rounder eggs to their own). Dating robots. Extrapolate a few decades out and what do you see?
No you can start with actual money.
What about money? You can't force me to want (or not want) someone's goods and services. If you're worried about large scale automation and so forth, I'm fine with something like UBI.
> More capable AI systems make the world better [so long as we also include the mitigations necessary due to the known and unknown downsides of AI]
I guess that's what you meant?
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> What about money?
The hundreds of billions being sunk into AI.
> You can't force me to want (or not want) someone's goods and services.
What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything in this conversation?
> If you're worried about large scale automation and so forth
I'm not.
> I'm fine with something like UBI.
Well as long as you're fine with UBI I guess we can put this conversation to rest.
Seriously, if you don't want to actually participate in the conversation you can just ignore comments. It's fine.
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The cost and externality are:
1) Lesser cost: people start to not want each other for anything, and therefore lose income of any kind, and are gradually bred out of existence like with horses and oxen in the 20th century
2) Greater cost: bot swarms separate people and can bring about any sort of effect at scale, with people powerless to stop it — eg destroy reputations, bring about support for wars, take over control, or really anything
How did you jump from AI writing to humans becoming extinct? People find each other plenty interesting. Those who want to start families, work together, etc. can always do so.
As for misuse, you are again catastrophizing. Just because a thing can be misused doesn't mean it will. That's obviously not the goal of AI.
I didnt say extinct
Horses and oxen aren’t extinct. Just nowhere near their peak where they had been before cars and tractors.
They just won’t have as many children. It is already happening.
People need each other less and less thanks to technology. And they won’t be paying each other for anything when they have AI. Soon romantic relationships will be disrupted also, it’s called a “superstimulus” (eg when birds prefer fake rounder eggs to their own). Dating robots. Extrapolate a few decades out and what do you see?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuQqlhqAUuQ
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