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Comment by sneak

4 days ago

…unless you work all day in Excel, which many do.

There is no reasonable substitute or replacement for Excel.

There should be, but there isn’t.

Probably true if you’re an advanced user using a machine with American language pack.

Personally, I stick with LibreOffice. The biggest win? It doesn’t aggressively mangle my data by assuming everything is a U.S. date that needs “fixing.”

And don’t get me started on how Excel insists that, just because my employer gave me a Norwegian-language Mac, every formula should now be written in some half-baked, poorly documented pseudo-Norwegian formula language.

The one tool I do miss? Outlook.

  • Just set your preferred UI language to English in System Settings - Language and Region and Excel will honor that

    There's probably some similar system setting for the date format

    • > Just set your preferred UI language to English in System Settings – Language and Region and Excel will honor that

      That might work - assuming IT policies don’t block it - but it could easily break a bunch of other things on my machine.

      > There's probably a similar system setting for the date format

      Maybe. But I’ve been a power user for 30 years (counting from my first full Windows restore), and I taught my first IT course in the late ’90s - so if there is an easy fix, I’m honestly kind of impressed with my own ability to miss it.

I commented elsewhere on the thread about this, and while I agree with the way you're framing this, I think there is a reasonable substitute for Excel for the vast majority of users. But I think there are power users that use the long tail of features, and for them, there is going to be no replacement. But I use spreadsheets as part of my job and personal life, and I've been using Google Sheets and Libre/OnlyOffice for years and years, and haven't touched Excel in more than 20 years.

But you gated your comment to those that work all day in Excel, and of course for those users, they're going to be needing Excel.

Agree, LibreOffice at minimum need to implement the same alt-key ribbon shortcuts.

As those are not available in macOS Excel without 3rd party hacks, LO would actually beat MSO at something :)