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Comment by godelski

3 days ago

  > requires a parent universe

Not exactly. A universe can expand, slow down, then collapse. In this case, bouncing back out.

Does that repeat forever? Does it lose energy in the bounce? If so, to where and how?

  > The black hole in the parent universe must be much much bigger than anything we see in ours

Yes and no. You're not thinking about contraction. With relativity we can fit a 100ft ladder inside a 10ft barn.

Most importantly, you don't need everything all figured out at once to publish. Then no one would always publish. There'd be nothing to improve on. Only one publication that says everything. Till then, everything does have criticisms and is incomplete. It's good to have criticisms! They lead you to the next work!

>> The black hole in the parent universe must be much much bigger than >> anything we see in ours

>> Yes and no. You're not thinking about contraction. With relativity >> we can fit a 100ft ladder inside a 10ft barn.

I believe the OP was talking about mass, not linear dimension. (And if he wasn't, I am.) Unless somehow mass inside a black hole is not constant? (ignoring accretion)

  • Relativity applies to mass too. Accelerate and you become heavier.

    Remember, mathematically, a blackhole is mass in an infinitely small point. You are dividing by 0. I don't know the answer, but if someone is saying that from the outside the apparent mass is different than from the inside, that doesn't set off any alarm bells. We literally are talking about Dr Who style "it's bigger on the inside". Even the ladder example should make you think about mass. Without relativistic effects the mass inside the barn is only part of the ladder. With relativity, the whole ladder, and thus mass, is inside. So yeah, weird things happen.

    • Black holes have the same mass and information as the stars that formed them.

      Unless the theory also breaks mass and information conservation, the star that gave birth to our black hole must have been as massive as our entire universe.

      I doubt we have any theory how a star that size can have formed.

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    • *aparent mass goes up

      Things don't get more mass, they just take more energy to accelerate which looks a lot like more mass.

      It doesn't imply for example, a high speed mass would cause more gravitational attraction than a slow one.

      If that was the case, a black hole would be even worse as it accelerates matter towards itself and it gains "bonus mass"

Where does the information of the previous universe before the bounce go? Is it destroyed?

  • Cosmic Background Radiation distribution could be that information. The distribution of mass hitting the event horizon then bouncing

  • It's been suggested it is gone and that perhaps even new laws of physics are created with each iteration (but I don't know why that would be).