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Comment by closewith

4 days ago

> Czechia

> why single it out?

Because the country of Czechia has asked the English-speaking world to refer to it that way.

> there are two irelands, fyi

There is Ireland, the island of Ireland, and Northern Ireland. Republic of Ireland refers to the soccer team and nothing else, FYI.

The country of Ireland has also requested that the English speaking world use its name, Ireland and specifically not the Republic of Ireland.

> no one can type that u on a keyboard without googling and copypasting it. you might as well insist on using hieroglyphs for CJK things

Ah, so we'll just decide to rename countries with inconvenient letters. How very colonial of you.

>Republic of Ireland refers to the soccer team and nothing else, FYI.

'The Republic of Ireland' is the official descriptive term for the country named 'Ireland' in English, per the Republic of Ireland Act 1948. I have certainly heard 'Republic of Ireland' used in Ireland, or just 'the Republic', but almost always in cases where the descriptive distinction is important. I'd agree that outside of those cases, using 'Republic of Ireland' by default can be a problem.

>Because the country of Czechia has asked the English-speaking world to refer to it that way.

Unlike the political complexities around 'Republic of Ireland', 'The Czech Republic' actually is the official long name of the country in English, with 'Czechia' the official short name; the country's government promotes 'Czechia', but I don't think there is a suggestion that 'Czech Republic' is no longer acceptable. I have also never actually heard anyone in the country refer to it as Czechia in English.

  • > The Republic of Ireland' is the official descriptive term for the country named 'Ireland' in English, per the Republic of Ireland Act 1948.

    The context is important. The Act revoked dominion status and role of the British Crown in the Irish executive branch, thus making Ireland a republic, and so deserving of a new description (the previous having been the Irish Free State).

    Czechia is the only way I've heard the country referred to (in the news as it rarely comes up in person).

Accusations of colonialism are preposterous. Every language has its own names for other countries and cities. These range from adaptations to the phonetic patterns of the language (pl: Warszawa -> de: Warschau; fr: Paris -> nl: Parijs) or completely different (pl: Polska -> hu: Lengyelország; cy: Cymru -> en: Wales).

This is just how language works.

  • No, you're completely wrong. We - as an international society - generally accept the name that countries would like to be called, even in our own languages.

    In English, we say: Sri Lanka, not Ceylon, Burkina Faso, not the Republic of Upper Volta, Botswana, not the Bechuanaland Protectorate, Bangladesh, not East Pakistan, The Netherlands, not Holland, Thailamd, not Siam, Etc

    Colonialism perfectly sums up the arrogant attitude that you can decide for them what another country will be called.

    • So Americans/Irish/English/Scots/Welsh/Australians are all being "colonialist" when they refer to Wien as 'Vienna', Čechy as 'Bohemia', Abertawe as 'Swansea' and La Manche as 'The English Channel'?

      Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

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    • According to your logic, the Germans should harangue the Azerbaijanis till they change "Almaniya" (the word for Germany in their language, which probably derives from the French "Allemagne") to "Deutschland".

      The Finns call Germany "Saksa", those Finno-imperialists!

      The Poles call it "Niemcy".

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> soccer team

I don't think anybody plays "soccer" in Ireland! (Not in NI or the Republic!)

  • Do you mean it's not popular or people don't use the name?

    If the former, you're wrong: soccer is the most played sport in Ireland.

    If the latter, you're wrong: football is Gaelic football almost universally outside Dublin and soccer is soccer. In Dublin, it's 50/50 depending on area, but no-one will blink if you say soccer.