Goodness me where oh where could that anti US bias come from? Couldn't be the illegal bombing of Cambodia and Laos during the Vietnam War, couldn't be arming the Guatamalans who carried out the silent Holocaust, couldn't be arming the Turks while they were slaughtering Kurds, couldn't be the illegal invasion of Iraq, killing up to a million people, and torturing others without due process, ultimately leading to violent blowback from Islamic extremists in Europe in the form of terrorist attacks. Couldn't be providing billions of dollars in weapons for Israel to carry out its genocide, likely leading to even more blowback across the globe. No, surely it's because they're _ungrateful_.
At least there's a figleaf. The 20th Century could have been the German Century, or the Soviet Century. For all America's sins, most people did well living in the American Century.
Ensuring peace by violently crushing social democratic organizing and unions is like ensuring a fun time by beating anyone who complains.
It’s not an anti-US bias to hold the US accountable for their actions. Funding a for-profit spyware company that’ll sell to anyone, including italian fascists, is bad. The US should be held accountable for that.
Attacking countries because of non existent WMDs, torturing people in black sites, sanctioning investigators of the ICC, spying on all internet traffic, enforcing their sanctions on third parties.
I think their are reasons for that anti-US bias.
And if the US ensured freedom it was because it benefited them.
If war would habe been the better option they would habe ensured that.
Your comment is extremely disingenuous. Much of the world, including Europe, has become dramatically more unsettled and dangerous as a direct consequence of US foreign policies and military adventures over the last quarter-century. Do you expect to be thanked?
I don’t expect anything from you or anyone else. I’m just glad I don’t have to worry about what other people think anymore. If anything, I wish the US would pull out of NATO altogether and focus on fixing our problems at home, since our contributions clearly aren’t wanted.
It was a main driver of the initial Cold War and conditioned on policy, basically neutering european sovereignty and pushing Soviet in a similar direction to try and counter this effort.
Political and economic dependency is a fallout that is still a problematic issue today, almost forty years after the fall of the USSR. The ongoing war in eastern Europe was pushed for by the US, more or less as a prolongation of the same strategy of US dominance in Europe.
People want the US to ensure peace. The problem is that the US has in recent months turned away from that and is instead promoting unrest, both home and abroad.
the current regime has shown hostility to keeping europe peaceful, what do you want?
How so? By asking Europe to pay for the defense of Europe?
Also by floating proposals that the Danish and British cede their stewardship of Greenland and Canada to the USA.
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Goodness me where oh where could that anti US bias come from? Couldn't be the illegal bombing of Cambodia and Laos during the Vietnam War, couldn't be arming the Guatamalans who carried out the silent Holocaust, couldn't be arming the Turks while they were slaughtering Kurds, couldn't be the illegal invasion of Iraq, killing up to a million people, and torturing others without due process, ultimately leading to violent blowback from Islamic extremists in Europe in the form of terrorist attacks. Couldn't be providing billions of dollars in weapons for Israel to carry out its genocide, likely leading to even more blowback across the globe. No, surely it's because they're _ungrateful_.
All of that was for freedoms though /s
At least there's a figleaf. The 20th Century could have been the German Century, or the Soviet Century. For all America's sins, most people did well living in the American Century.
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Yeah I forgot that Europe wasn’t involved in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Regardless, it seems to be helpful to others to point out what one finds worthy of discussion; that is actually the point of the comments, after all.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist_mass_killings
Ensuring peace by violently crushing social democratic organizing and unions is like ensuring a fun time by beating anyone who complains.
It’s not an anti-US bias to hold the US accountable for their actions. Funding a for-profit spyware company that’ll sell to anyone, including italian fascists, is bad. The US should be held accountable for that.
Attacking countries because of non existent WMDs, torturing people in black sites, sanctioning investigators of the ICC, spying on all internet traffic, enforcing their sanctions on third parties.
I think their are reasons for that anti-US bias.
And if the US ensured freedom it was because it benefited them. If war would habe been the better option they would habe ensured that.
Your comment is extremely disingenuous. Much of the world, including Europe, has become dramatically more unsettled and dangerous as a direct consequence of US foreign policies and military adventures over the last quarter-century. Do you expect to be thanked?
I don’t expect anything from you or anyone else. I’m just glad I don’t have to worry about what other people think anymore. If anything, I wish the US would pull out of NATO altogether and focus on fixing our problems at home, since our contributions clearly aren’t wanted.
> US contributions to ensuring peace in Europe
Name the contributions after 1945.
Do they not teach about the Marshall Plan in schools anymore?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
It was a main driver of the initial Cold War and conditioned on policy, basically neutering european sovereignty and pushing Soviet in a similar direction to try and counter this effort.
Political and economic dependency is a fallout that is still a problematic issue today, almost forty years after the fall of the USSR. The ongoing war in eastern Europe was pushed for by the US, more or less as a prolongation of the same strategy of US dominance in Europe.
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People want the US to ensure peace. The problem is that the US has in recent months turned away from that and is instead promoting unrest, both home and abroad.
What has the US done in recent months to promote unrest abroad?
Reduced support for Ukraine and sympathised with Russia, empowering Putin and increased risk of conflict in Europe.
The US has interfered with elections in Europe, supporting far-right movements that are more prone to violence.
There are more things but those are most relevant for my area.
That bias is earned, especially over actions the US has committed covertly in Europe over the last 50 years.
Such as?
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities...
Here's some good reading if you're truly interested.
Buying off the mafia with a resurrection of the global heroin trade in exchange for them crushing certain popular parties and unions.
Joining forces with fascists in Operation Gladio.