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Comment by slim

1 day ago

how come each time researchers find a new spyware, it's always an Israeli shop behind it ? maybe because Israel has developed an ecosystem and an industry around spying. I think it's evil to try to deflect the blame from israel given the fact it's currently committing genocide in Palestine

Based on what you're saying, I think I know more about this market than you do. I'm comfortable with who does and does not take me seriously. For those people who do: this "Israel" stuff is not useful for understanding what's happening in the world with respect to CNE tools.

  • A long time ago, I went to my first (and only) Defcon conference. There was a speaker who had worked in the US government talking about state use of hacking tools.

    After the talk I went up to him and asked, "What are the countries that are using these tools?" He looked at me with a certain amount of scorn and said, "All of them."

    • This obviously just has to be true. I have very strong evidence that it's true, but it's also just the most obvious possible conclusion to reach. Competitive CNE tooling even at the top of the market costs just a fraction of what you'd have to pay in benefits and overhead for the equivalent HUMINT operations.

  • Just out of curiosity - would you describe companies that are commonly in the spotlight as more mercenary than average?

because all of this private company linked to the former elite cyber unit that israel army has

its not surprising since israel intelligence unit one of the best in the world

I imagine most of the time it would be pretty hard to attribute which company and from which country the spyware comes from.

I'm always amazed we know the origin of these sorts of things as much as we do.

They have more experience with such things - all the expertise concentrated there. It's the same reason all the megasocialtech web apps come from Silicon Valley.