Comment by SuperCuber
6 months ago
It's hilarious that this figure keeps getting quoted with a link to a source that directly contradicts it.
> Armed conflicts have indirect health implications beyond the direct harm from violence. Even if the conflict ends immediately, there will continue to be many indirect deaths in the coming months and years [...] In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths . Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza.
The text is not claiming that 200,000 people at the point of publishing have died, it is estimating the number of deaths attributed to the conflict in the coming years.
My bad, you're right. This shows how bias can affect my readings, I'll work on that and I appreciate you pointing it out
But to stress again, even then this was assuming the war stopped back then, a year ago, and the public number also does not include the groups I mentioned earlier.
And this conflict is unique in how brutal it is for the civilians in Gaza. For instance the numbers used for the Russia-Ukrain war (500K-1M) are not those of civilian causalities. According to the latest UN numbers, it's around 13K for killed, and around 30K wounded [1]. Whereas in Gaza, the number of women and girls killed alone is more than double that (28K) [2]. The conflict is also unique in how many children have been killed, where it outnumbered the number of children killed in global conflicts in the last 4 years [3] (numbers from March, 2024)
What I'm trying to highlight is that when OP is attempting to undermine that conflict, they are not comparing the conflicts properly. Which leads to unjust assumptions, this does look like a genocide, and even if you want to fight this label. This conflict has been extremely devastating to civilians in Gaza, and perhaps is the number 1 most brutal conflict to civilians globally today.
[1]: https://ukraine.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2025-05/Ukrain...
[2]: https://www.unwomen.org/en/news-stories/news/2025/05/un-wome...
[3]: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147512