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Comment by kreetx

2 days ago

Well, he appears to have been a protester at Columbia University in 2024, and he is also not a citizen.

If you yourself are a citizen, I'm sure you can express your views and not be sent anywhere. You can also vote to get people in power who are more to your liking, or even attempt be one of those people yourself.

None of this is relevant to what you're trying to argue ("AFAIK, the speech is still free").

  • He can still express his opinion and he can still protest.

    In your opinion, should anyone be able to travel to the US to protest? Would you set an upper limit to this process, or should any amount be allowed?

    • Reductio ad absurdum: corporal punishment for people who say things the government dislikes doesn't violate their freedom of speech. Sure, they might get beaten for it, but they can still express their opinion and they can still protest!

      Yes, my opinion is that there should be no legal consequences for speech. And again, that is the US Secretary of State's opinion too — just only for US nationals traveling to foreign countries, not vice versa.

    • > In your opinion, should anyone be able to travel to the US to protest? Would you set an upper limit to this process, or should any amount be allowed?

      The government shall not take action in response to his constitutionally protected rights because the laws to authorize that action shall not exist.

    • So no upper limit: any amount of foreigners should be allowed in at any amount?

      (Corporal punishment is when it's physical pain. I don't think a sore bum from an airplane seat counts.)

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> If you yourself are a citizen, I'm sure you can express your views and not be sent anywhere.

Under the current regime US citizens have already been deported to countries they have never visited.

If you actually care about these concepts then reading about them will be faster than relying on Cunningham’s Law to iteratively eliminate all conceivable wrong answers.

I recommend starting with the US Constitution at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_S...