Comment by msgodel
2 days ago
Does it make sense for me and a bunch of friends to go to Thailand and protest the way they run their country?
No! We'd be (appropriately) deported for that. Anyone would say that's insane. The same is true here. That obviously makes no sense.
> Does it make sense for me and a bunch of friends to go to Thailand and protest the way they run their country?
This topic concerns the actions of US Gov; it's about which actions are specifically limited by the Constitution. Enforcing those limits is how we protect our rights.
It makes sense to advocate for the constitutional rights of individuals.
Further, not advocating for others' constitutional rights - this is a factor in erosion of rights overall. I offer that the 100mi constitution-free zone adjacent to US borders is an example of that¹.
If Thailand's government is similarly bound by it's constitution, it is probably wise for Thai people to advocate for individual rights.
¹ ref:https://kagi.com/search?q=what+constitutional+rights+are+imp...
The people who we are debating with seem to have the opinion that people from around the world have the right to assemble in the United States. That indeed is an interesting take.
> The people who we are debating with seem to have the opinion that people from around the world have the right to assemble in the United States. That indeed is an interesting take.
Our opinion is that the US Constitution applies to the people within a US jurisdiction. In this, our opinion is correct.
As far as you disagree with that, your disagreement will be with the Constitution - which is your inalienable right.
Had he been denied entry at point of departure, would that have been ok?
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It's ideological libertarinism taken to the absurd point of essentially anarchy.
> It's ideological libertarinism taken to the absurd point of essentially anarchy.
Constitutionalism is about the core restraints placed on Gov. Not violating the constitution is it's own thing. Because it defines order, it is the opposite of anarchy.
Does some ideology or some facet of libertarian overlap here? I have no idea. It isn't relevant tho.
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This cannot be a serious comment, can it?
"Does it make sense for a place with a completely different governance structure, completely different laws, and completely different norms (notably lacking the US Constitution and its unique 1st Amendment protections) to behave differently?"
Uhhh yes. You would expect a different result in a different place. Here in America we have the laws that exist in America. In Thailand they have the laws that exist in Thailand.
He was denied entry at the border, so it sounds like he should be let in on a technicality.
The technicality being "to avoid violating the foundational laws of our country?"
Yeah, in the world of law you have to do stuff correctly and technically correctly. What country do you live in where this isn't the case, so I know never to go there?
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