Comment by gruez

>To me civilisation isn't an inherently good term, and I'm not a believer in natural or god given hierarchies, or even the state as necessary.

You're right. The universe doesn't need us to be living in cities, with indoor plumbing, modern medical care, and iPads, but most people would prefer that to living in the savannah without any of that and a life expectancy of 30 years.

>by necessity it destroys cooperative forms of social life as a survival tactic.

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