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Comment by heavyset_go

8 months ago

> being terrified of letting loose (even with something common in the local culture, for example alcohol)

Do you have good reason for this fear, like fantasies of hurting yourself or others? If so, yeah, you probably shouldn't ingest substances that can lower your inhibitions.

I am not terrified, rather scared of loosing control, hurting people I like, feeling ashamed forever afterward, the usual. I use to not give shit but I’m old now and I have a much bigger social net I care about.

But I do know people which I would categorise as really terrified of loosing control.

Maybe “letting loose” was the wrong expression here, I meant “loosing control” rather.

  • Losing control is something that happens at higher doses. It’s hard to quantify this without prior experience, but most substances can be taken on a level of »three beer drunk« where you’re very clearly not sober, but you can still talk, and take care of the essentials of life like going to the toilet and walking home in public without attracting attention.

    For example, the average person will feel altered mood states and mild visual hallucinations (patterns on surfaces, think very detailed mandalas or fractals), in the 50-75μg range of LSD. They will not see pink elephants, they will not try to call their dog on the phone, they will not strip naked, they will not make growling sounds at trees.

    Now, I do voluntary work in drug education, and there’s one important thing to say, it’s that everyone’s different, and it’s fine not to do psychedelics, or any other substance.

  • You weren't always in control. You still mostly aren't.

    • Yeah, it’s not binary, let me rephrase: “relinquish more control than when having 2-3 beers”.

      There are things I can’t control even when sober, that’s clear, but I’m used to it. Giving up the control over things I usually control is a different thing (for me).