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Comment by ecshafer

8 months ago

These studies are all deeply flawed. They find willing participants, give them some drugs, then ask how they feel about it. Of course they say they feel spiritual and connected with the world and all of that, that's what the drugs do. But I know plenty of people who claim that mushrooms or lsd were spiritually awakening and connected them with the world, who wouldn't think twice about stealing from an old woman's purse, robbing people, or worse. I know alcoholics who claim they don't have a problem and think drinking is just good fun, but are also violent assholes when they drink.

I did not read the study so I don't know if you're referencing a specific claim in it, but I do not understand your comment. What does being immoral have to do with TFA?

  • This is making the claim that psychedelics are making people more spiritual, that these are spiritual awakenings. Morality and spiritually are intrinsically linked. There is also a flaw in the research when they only ask the participants how they feel and do no outside measurements.

I think you are making a very important point here, but unfortunately getting downvoted for stating it so cynically. A more productive way to phrase it would be that people's self-report on a drug's effect (beyond the pure subjective experience of the trip) can be very misleading about alleged positive effects, and can be very incomplete about any negative effects.