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Comment by max_

3 months ago

- [Palantir] A surveillance company used by by spy agencies

- [Meta] A social media company that has all your personal conversations & pictures, video, audio

- [Open AI] Something many people at work & school are uploading sensitive data to

- All run by acolytes of Peter Thiel

- Current president & vp are bankrolled Peter Thiel

- Top executives formally recruited into US Army.

USA is sleep walking into something very nasty. I still don't know what it is.

But please when it unravels. Let us not pretend we never saw it coming.

I am very worried about this. Something is being set up.

> USA is sleep walking into something very nasty. I still don't know what it is.

Maybe there's something fast & vicious in the works, but it could just be the merciless grasping at any shred of power these Hostis Humani Generis do.

The big move is writ large. It's multi-front sell off of the enduring value of America. Fullscale assault on schools. Destruction of science and medicine. Giving up on USAID then FEMA. Selling off millions of acres of land.

The network state ideology is that you should have to know someone and be in a network to get anything. If you aren't born into or allowed entrance into a network you get nothing. Reducing what government does to nothing melds well with the Christo-fascist ideology that likewise resents any state not run by and for the church: two sides of the same coin.

Sadly everyone keeps hoping there will be free elections still.

I do fear for my US friends and everyone else that is being impacted by what is happening.

  • it's too late for free elections, we haven't had one since pre-Bush I think. Most votes are programmed into people and they don't really know it, and if they do they just don't care. I think very few people actually study and do unbiased research prior to voting. Everyone votes based on what people around them think, and whichever party's social media "brainwashing" has affected them most.

    • This is such bunk. People aren’t “programmed,” they just don’t agree with you. And people being poorly-informed is not new, and it doesn’t make elections “non-free” or make them not count.

      I don’t want to get into a political debate here, but the DNC can thank itself for Trump since they coronated (with no primary!) a candidate who dropped out before Iowa when she ran in the primaries because she had zero support because no one liked her. They also basically ran on a platform of “if you don’t like our policies, you’re a bad person.” I’d imagine more than enough people to swing the election either way pulled the lever for Trump as an explicit rebuke of the DNC’s disdain for anyone outside their orthodoxy.

      Anyway. When a party besides the Trump party remembers that persuading the rest of the public (not insulting them) is necessary to win elections, that’s when we’ll have relief from one-man rule by that jackass.

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> USA is sleep walking into something very nasty. I still don't know what it is.

It's called fascism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_paramilitary

  • No, it's called capitalism — capital has the last word. As we have seen clearly, even Trump is overwhelmingly limited by the constraints of capital.

    • Fascism had it's roots in Capitalism. The elites not only welcomed it, but they backed it, because it helped shut down workers right movements and keep things stable at a time when the workers right movement was hurting their bottom line by asking their bosses for living wages and humane working conditions, which they saw as Socialism and Communism.

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    • Sadly, Fascism and Capitalism largely walk hand-in-hand these days... Their bastard love-child will almost certainly be the death of "civilized" society if allowed to continue on the path it's currently on... It's well past time society starts brainstorming a better option.

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    • Capitalism is when people vote away their own rights? Leftist analysis can't explain why Bernie out-spent Biden and got crushed. There are strong capital interests on both sides of this issue.

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I would urge anybody who wants to soothe their fears to avoid reading up on Curtis Yarvin.

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The people want to be surveilled. This is their choice, which has been revealed billions of times since the dawn of the modern social media era. As a result I have zero pity, and the public can reap what it has sown.

Privacy advocates, cypherpunks, hackers, et cetera have been sounding the alarm bells since Room 641A, if not earlier. Not only has the Internet at large failed to heed these warnings, some of those "conscientious objectors" who refused to willingly submit their information to these systems of surveillance capitalism were actively demonized and hunted.

After all, if you are not willingly signing up for these services, social media, and voluntarily forfeiting your data to these systems, then there is something wrong with you and you should probably just sign up for that Meta account already.

You are the ones who have kept these systems running by voluntarily feeding them your time, attention, and/or data. Now the beast has reached maturity and it is too late to do anything about it.

  • *The people are too poor and disconnected to dissent.

    Everything comes down to the desperation to survive in a world where abundant (ABUNDANT) food, shelter, and clothing still must be "earned" (so say our elites).

  • By your logic people also want to get into car wrecks, develop cancer in old age, get food poisoning, etc.

    Just because there's risks with something or side effects with something doesn't mean people want the side effects

    • I would agree in cases where the desired effect is distinct from the side effect.

      However, for social media in particular, the desired effect is the side effect, which is the surveillance.