Comment by lordkrandel
1 day ago
The layoffs affected mostly the US market. In EU, there never has been an excess of salaries or hiring, so it's almost just bad as usual. You don't see much "funding" and "VC"s here. If you wanna stay on the market, you better have positive cash flow. In Italy, salaries are about 1/4 of what's overseas, it is very hard to job hop, those who do are seen as opportunistic people. So, you feel this slightly less.
All this AI marketing thing is another thing that is specific about Silicon Valley and investments, and "growth". In EU, you don't have much growth, and that's all.
I guess the US tech market has been drugged on free cash for too long, to even have an idea of what the real world is.
Layoffs certainly do happen outside US and ZIRP was not uniquely American thing.
Go check what I say if you don't believe me. Ask ChatGPT for sources, check Reddit or official statistics. It's been like 10% of what is in the US. Here finding a job has ALWAYS been a problem, not just now. https://www.businessinsider.com/big-tech-layoffs-meta-snap-a...
I haven't heard of anyone being laid off in my circle, no newspaper talking about that. Sure there must have been some Microsoft or Google employee laid off, but they do not represent big numbers here, so it's totally different. There are also almost no startups here.
Some quick examples:
Bosch: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/11/business/bosch-germany-jo...
Panasonic: https://www.manufacturingdive.com/news/panasonic-layoffs-con...
SAP: https://www.thestack.technology/sap-layoffs-cost-3-billion-l...
Cisco: https://www.brusselstimes.com/1328320/us-company-cisco-to-sh...
Telia: https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/swedens-telia...
Sure, numbers are lower, but tech downturn is a global thing.
P.S. No moral judgement intended. Just different context, different bubbles and conditions.