The most otherworldly, mysterious forms of lightning on Earth

6 days ago (nationalgeographic.com)

Cool TLE photo from an astronaut couple days ago: https://x.com/Astro_Ayers/status/1940810789830451563

I expected ball lightning to be mentioned in the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

  • I am a huge skeptic in general, but when I was 18 some twenty+ years ago I was sitting in my parents living room during a thunderstorm watching out the back window.

    This blaringly loud blindingly bright ball of white light just meandered slowly towards the house, before striking the house and destroying most of our electronics and starting a small fire.

    The noise was the most impressing part. It's difficult sound to fully explain, it sounded a lot like when a high power line fell near my house a couple years ago. Imagine you were an ant inside a running blender, it's that all-encompassing.

    I will never forget it, I've never seen anything like it.

  • It's funny how controversial this subject has been. From reading the more recent books on lightning physics, I'm convinced of the reality of it. From that perspective, I'm amused by the entry on ball lightning in the Encyclopedic Dictionary Of Physics (Thewlis, 1962). I don' have it here, but I recall he says something like, "Reports of ball lightning have generally come from unreliable characters, so we can assume it doesn't really exist."

  • Came up on my feed a few days ago. Looks like convincing ball lightning to me: https://youtu.be/mmOfwFHBu_o

The curious phenomena of red sprites, green ghosts and blue jets are clearly derived from the red, green and blue pixels of the simulation aether.

  • Nah, the aether doesn't care, we just see them that way because there's a bug preventing the effect from triggering all simulated retinal cones. :p

The article links to a photographer of the phenomena which arguably has better info than the article.

https://paulmsmithphotography.com/pages/what-are-red-sprites...

  Sprites get their characteristic red color from excitation of nitrogen in 
  the low pressure environment of the upper mesosphere. At such low 
  pressures quenching by atomic oxygen is much faster than that of 
  nitrogen, allowing for nitrogen emissions to dominate despite no 
  difference in composition. As the atmospheric pressure increases in the 
  lower atmosphere, the red emissions are quenched and blue emissions from 
  atmospheric nitrogen excitation dominate. . .

The trouble with fancy photography (which National Geographic is famous for) is it can make things look far more spectacular or "otherworldly" than real life. Apparently this lightning can't usually be seen by people, occur above the clouds, and in the blink of an eye. You could be looking right at it and not notice anything otherworldly. Well that's not impressive. You can also see otherworldly things just by watching water move up close or looking at space through a telescope, or using an instrument to visualize EM fields or whatever. I expect those things to be otherworldly because they are.

  • I think it's ok to think they're all interesting

    • For that matter I think a large part of what makes anything “otherworldly” is beauty in things unfolding outside our normal experience of the world: I don’t see what distinguishes glorious NG photography from the other methods. It’s only natural to expect that from techniques that let us access phenomena that wouldn’t be perceptible in terms of ordinary human scale or sense of time

Ive seen the blue sprites while in the mountains above the clouds. If you open an image editor, black background, select paintbrush, electric blue colour, and do a random fast squiggle followed by ctrl+z thats how they look. I only say this because images and video seem to not exist for them yet. Looks like a signature on the sky.

> Not only did the photographers capture a significant number of red sprites, the Himalayan storm also featured even rarer TLEs called jets and ghosts. The team found 16 secondary jets, powerful columns of often blue or purple light darting upwards into the sky, and at least four ghosts, green hazy glows that can sometimes hover above red sprites.

Oddly we will just have to take the author’s word for it, because no photographs depicting those rarer TLEs appear in this article.

No mention of ball lightning [0]? I also keep feeling incredibly disappointed that some Chinese researchers have had video going back to 2014 but, AFAIK, it has never been published.

Although as I was just looking up the ball lightning link it turns out there was a newly reported recording of ball lightning just a few days ago [1]?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

[1] https://globalnews.ca/news/11272805/alberta-storm-lightning-...