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Comment by ricksunny

3 days ago

In context of possible early Peruvian civilizations, definitely don't read the below; it's obviously an undersubstantiated pseudoscientific rabbit-hole not worth your curiosity and that your productive workday can not afford.

https://tridactyls.org/

(maintained by one Gonzalo Chavez https://x.com/gchavez101 )

This is pseudoscience nonsense spread by some huckster and it's not worth anyones time and is disrespectful to the people of Peru. It's a modern hoax

> "They're not extraterrestrials. They're dolls made from animal bones from this planet joined together with modern synthetic glue," said Flavio Estrada, an archeologist with Peru's Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences. "It's totally a made-up story," Estrada added.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/scientists-assert-ali...

  • > Joshua McDowell said: 'The bodies studied by Estrada were not related to any specimen that we have studied. They were folk dolls made to look like tridactyls confiscated at the airport.

  • The dolls in that article were confiscated in the mail and are made for tourists. The creator of those dolls has explained this already, and they are unrelated to the bodies discovered near Ica.

    Here’s an X-ray comparison between the two where it’s very obvious that there’s a difference between the modern dolls and the archaeological discoveries:

    https://x.com/_stranger357/status/1805272924640682036

    Even if you’re incredulous that these bodies were living creatures, no one disputes their carbon dating of 500-1500 years old and this has been confirmed by multiple labs. It’s not possible to construct bodies from biological material that is that old, so if they were constructed it would have to have been done by ancient Peruvians. This begs the question of why ancient Peruvians were making constructions of beings that look remarkably similar to modern aliens as described by UFO experiencers:

    https://x.com/_stranger357/status/1804973689567326435

    The archaeological discoveries are being studied by the University of Ica and other South American scientists across many disciplines. The South American cultures also have a long history of depicting tridactyl beings in their artworks, there are hundreds of examples but here’s one:

    https://x.com/_stranger357/status/1789875845542076808

    So it’s really quite ridiculous to suggest this is disrespectful to Peruvians. Their own culture describes these creatures, and their scientists are the ones promoting the authenticity of the bodies. You’re just propagating ignorance.

    Skepticism has turned into a religion, the rational perspective here is that we have a genuine mystery that needs further investigation.

    • Show me a peer reviewed paper about these mummies.

      It is hard not to be skeptical when all the evidence appears to come from the person who "discovered" them and who has a long documented history of hoaxes from a skinned monkey that was claimed to be an alien to epoxied bat remains with eyes painted with phosphorescent paint which was claimed to be a "demon fairy."

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    • You're linking to random twitter posts, with one of them mentioning a random reddit user with "throwaway" in his name, but "Skepticism has turned into a religion"? Please link to any credible source, just one.

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on the other hand, I enjoyed "The Lost World" adventure fantasy book quite a lot as a kid, and now it seems there is science for certain dinosaur era creatures in some places.. so maybe fantastic nonsense has a place in a spectrum, as long as it is identified as "speculative" or whatever