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Comment by ulfw

2 days ago

I'd love to know a reason why not to use an iPhone because of Apple's leader. Is he not right wing enough like Musk?

We all have our ideas on politics. Not all ideas are as universal as some think or pretend.

  • "Nazis are bad" ought to be pretty damn universal.

    We're not talking "has different ideas about corporate taxation or environmental regulation" like, say, Mitt Romney.

    • The Roman Empire engaged in genocide and slavery against many of their adversaries, yet Rome is still viewed as the peak of ancient civilization. The USSR imprisoned millions and caused the deaths of tens of millions more, yet leftists try focusing on the free healthcare and education. The United States engaged in ethnic cleansing of the native Americans, yet given enough time, such crimes have faded in saliency. Manifest Destiny was actually the inspiration for Hitler's ideas of lebensraum, invasion of Russia, and genocide of the Slavs. If Hitler had won he probably would have been considered more akin to Caesar or Napoleon. History is written by the victors and all that.

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  • Right. And in my idea of politics, people who are willing to tolerate Nazis in social company are completely and utterly morally compromised.

    I think all Nazis should be socially shunned. I think all those willing to knowingly socialize with Nazis should also be socially shunned.

    • Calling people names to dehumanize them is a page from the Nazi playbook.

      20 years of anti-fascists who are jealous that some other people have better footwear calling wolf was a magic spell that brought real fascists into existence.

      (If you had to say what was wrong about Twitter in a short text it is that it is easy to say something like the above message in a short text but impossible to conclusively refute as it involves introducing concepts such as "The meaning of a communication is its effect", "The purpose of a system is what it does", "Chaos Magick is real", and that even though physics is real some things obey the laws of 'pataphysics instead.)