Comment by foobarqux
3 days ago
That's not the argument being made though, which is that it does "work" now and implying that actually it didn't quite work before; except that that is the same thing the same people say for every model release, including at the time or release of the previous one, which is now acknowledged to be seriously flawed; and including the future one, at which time the current models will similarly be acknowledged to be, not only less performant that the future models, but inherently flawed.
Of course it's possible that at some point you get to a model that really works, irrespective of the history of false claims from the zealots, but it does mean you should take their comments with a grain of salt.
> That's not the argument being made though, which is that it does "work" now and implying that actually it didn't quite work before
Right.
> except that that is the same thing the same people say for every model release,
I did not say that, no.
I am sure you can find someone who is in a Groundhog Day about this, but it’s just simpler than that: as tools improve, more people find them useful than before. You’re not talking to the same people, you are talking to new people each time who now have had their threshold crossed.
> You’re not talking to the same people, you are talking to new people each time who now have had their threshold crossed.
no, it's the same names, again and again
Got receipts?
That sounds like a claim you could back up with a little bit of time spent using Hacker News search or similar.
(I might try to get a tool like o3 to run those searches for me.)
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