Comment by McDyver
1 day ago
Exactly, what's a country?
Israel never existed either, until it was administratively created in 1948. Maybe it shouldn't have been created where other people were already living?
1 day ago
Exactly, what's a country?
Israel never existed either, until it was administratively created in 1948. Maybe it shouldn't have been created where other people were already living?
You started with “occupying their country”. Can you tell me what country is that?
Indeed. But what is a country? Is it a place where people live and have their identity, or does it need to be "ratified" by the UN? Before 1945 were there no "countries"?
Does it legitimise the invasion of someone's land? I don't think so
> Before 1945 were there no "countries"?
There were. They had their own government, and were able to have relationships with other countries.
At what point in time Palestinians had their own government and country? I’ll remind you that during the mandate there was no Jordan as well.
> Does it legitimise the invasion of someone's land? I don't think so
Jews also owned land there during the mandate, the ottomans, and even before. Is it okay to take their land?
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I'll reply here
> And that is the basis of all this fighting, why doesn't Israel stick to the initial borders they agreed to?
You mean the ones that Palestinians do not want to stick to?
Phrase it "occupy their land", then it will certainly be correct.
What about the Jewish people of the land? Do they have a say?
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If it's not a different country from Israel, then give them Israeli citizenship.
There's a very simple reason Israel doesn't give the Palestinians citizenship: Israel wants to make sure the large majority of voters are Jewish. It wants the land, but not the people who live there.
> If it's not a different country from Israel, then give them Israeli citizenship.
The period we are talking about had no Israel either, so I am not sure what was supposed to happen there in your view.
> There's a very simple reason Israel doesn't give the Palestinians citizenship: Israel wants to make sure the large majority of voters are Jewish.
Of course. We all (1) see what happens to non-muslims in other middle eastern countries, and (2) saw what happened to the middle eastern jewry after 1948. I doubt that Iraqi jews living in Israel want to live under Islamic rule again.
> It wants the land, but not the people who live there.
This is false. Israel multiple times traded land for peace. The latest one was leaving Gaza in 2005.
Why are you keeping twisting the facts to suit your narrative?
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