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Comment by MSFT_Edging

1 day ago

Fascism is notoriously an intellectually and philosophically inconsistent world view who's primary purpose is to validate racism and violence.

There's no world where the fascist checks sources before making a claim.

Just like ole Elon, who has regularly been proven wrong by Grok, to the point where they need to check what he thinks first before checking for sources.

A good rule of thumb: If your theory of mind for literally anyone is "they just want to hurt people", you are repeating propaganda.

  • A core aspect of fascism is finding as scapegoat to blame societal ills on in order to avoid introspection of said society. The scapegoat is in danger in this regard.

    Combined with a strong nationalistic and militaristic tendencies, this combination doesn't end in a way other than violence against the scapegoat.

    Because fascism is incoherent, there's little to be gained from arguing with their adherents.

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  • Today is probably a good day for you to learn the definition of fascism, then. The axe in the fasces isn't a symbol of cutting firewood.

  • You subbed in "ends" for "purpose to is to validate." They're different. Without the seduction of violence and racism, fascism is a much less convincing argument.

    Facism is a paranoid carnival that feeds on fear, scapegoating, and blood. That’s the historical record.

    Fascism needs violence and racism as tools and moral glue to hold its contradictions together. It’s the myth-making and the permission slip for brutality that gives fascism its visceral pull, not some utopian goal of pure violence, but a promise of restored glory, cleansed nation, purified identity, and the righteous right to crush the other.

    Fascism doesn’t chase violence like a dog after a stick. Im fact, it needs violence like a drunk needs a barstool. Strip out the promise of righteous fists and pure-blood fantasies, and the whole racket folds like a bad poker hand. Without the thrill of smashing skulls and blaming ‘the other guy,’ fascism’s just empty uniforms and a lousy flag collection.

    Look at Mussolini: all that pomp about the Roman Empire while squads of Blackshirts bashed heads in the streets to keep people terrified and in line. Hitler wrapped his genocidal sadism in pseudo-science, fake grievances, and grand promises of ‘racial purity'...the point was never a coherent plan beyond expansion and domination.

    • > You subbed in "ends" for "purpose to is to validate." They're different. Without the seduction of violence and racism, fascism is a much less convincing argument.

      Yeah I generally meant that there are people who desire violence. Their targets of choice vary, be it along boundaries of race, sex, etc.

      Fascism uses this reactionary tendency to amass a following. It's a weapon that is wielded inconsistently. Many Homosexuals were part of the early brown shirts. Hitler publicly said their sexuality wasn't opposed to Nazism.

      These brownshirts would attack union meetings, violently break strikes, and generally act as an unofficial arm of violence for the Nazis. Once power had been gained, and enemies squashed, there was now an issue with their sexuality and the Nazi party acted as they are to do.

      There's no logic behind the scapegoat. It's fluid and can change on a whim to suit the emotional reactions of whoever they're trying to garner support from.

  • > I don’t know of any ideologies whose ends are simply violence. Fascism is definitely not one of them.

    You don't know much about the EU nor about fascism, why do you feel the need to opine on both while clearly showing you have no idea what you are talking about.

    Educate yourself, it will make you a better person :)