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Comment by lllllm

1 day ago

No, the model has nothing do to with Llama. We are using our own architecture, and training from scratch. Llama also does not have open training data, and is non-compliant, in contrast to this model.

Source: I'm part of the training team

Hey, really cool project, I’m excited to see the outcome. Is there a blog / paper summarizing how you are doing it ? Also which research group is currently working on it at eth ?

So you're not going to use copyrighted data for training? That's going to be a disadvantage with respect to LLaMa and other well-known models, it's an open secret that everyone is using everything they can get their hands on.

Good luck though, very needed project!

  • Not sure about the Swiss laws, but the EU AI Act and the 2019/790 digital millennium directive it piggies back on the topic, does allow for training on copyrighted data as long as any opt-out mechanisms (e.g. robots.txt) are respected. AFAICT this LLM was trained by respecting those mechanisms (and as linked elsewhere they didn't find any practical difference in performance - note that there is an exception to allow ignoring the opt-out mechanisms for research purposes, so they could make that comparison).

Are you using dbpedia?

  • no. the main source is fineweb2, but with additional filtering for compliance, toxicity removal, and quality filters such as fineweb2-hq

    • Thx for engaging here.

      Can you comment on how the filtering impacted language coverage? E.g. finweb2 has 1800+ languages, but some with very little actual representation, while finweb2-hq has just 20 but each with a subdsantial data set.

      (I'm personaly most interested in covering the 24 official EU languages)

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