Comment by andrepd
6 months ago
I've heard my grandma talk about Catholic saints and their powers with a not dissimilar kind of discourse.
6 months ago
I've heard my grandma talk about Catholic saints and their powers with a not dissimilar kind of discourse.
Point being?
Unlike Catholic saints, ChatGPT models actually exhibit these properties in directly observable and measurable way. I wrote how I decide which model to use for actual tasks, not which saint to pray to.
My grandma also uses saints for actual tasks (e.g. St Anthony for finding lost items), and they exibith those properties in observable ways (e.g. he found her sewing needles just last month). Perhaps the comparison is more appropriate than you realise.
> actually exhibit these properties in directly observable and measurable way
Well but do they? I don't mean your vibes, and I also don't mean cooked-up benchmarks. For example: https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-o...
If not users opinions, or objective benchmarks, then what? Sounds like you prefer closing your ears saying 'nananana...'
> Perhaps the comparison is more appropriate than you realise.
Or perhaps you stop being obtuse. There's no causal connection between "using saints for actual tasks" and the outcomes, which is why we call this religion. In contrast, you can see the cause-and-effect relationship directly and immediately with LLMs - all it takes is going to chatgpt.com or claude.ai, typing in a query, and observing the result.
> Well but do they? I don't mean your vibes, and I also don't mean cooked-up benchmarks.
Do read the study itself, specifically the parts where the authors spell out specifically what is or isn't being measured here.
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