There is no other manufacturer that sells what I want. The alternative is worse (Google) or incompatible with the reality of my daily life (my banks app won't work on it).
On the desktop side of things it's getting better, the Framework desktop is interesting, but there's still no REAL alternative yet. Maybe in 5 years.
> There is no other manufacturer that sells what I want.
Not only that, but if there was one it would very likely become very popular. As it is gained market share money and power it that doing all bad things the currently big players are doing (because they tend to increase that money and power) and you're back looking for an alternative again. Regulations, not market forces are the only way to curb these bad behaviors.
Fairphone and a Framework is just fine. What exactly do you do that suggests there is no alternative? I can see absolutely nothing Apple does that no other laptop can.
> I can see absolutely nothing Apple does that no other laptop can.
Let me check the list.
- High DPI screen with color calibration and automatic white balancing, working 99% of the time. Ensuring your eyes always sees the color it expects without fatigue. Plus, HDR.
- Most decent external screens you plug will also have their correct color profile installed on the OS level, so they'll not show funny colors.
- 15+ hour battery life on an ordinary laptop if you don't abuse it. Even my M1 can handle me for a couple of days with light usage.
- Good quality speakers, decent stereo separation without being too tinny or boomy.
- Great quality cameras and microphones for its size.
- Great, backlight illuminated keyboard, with no flex.
- A realistic 8-10 year usage life without babying it.
- A full metal body, and keeping it light for that amount of metal.
- Built-in biometrics which runs on a proper secure enclave, without any "touch here, write absurdly long pasword you don't know there" shenanigans of Windows.
- A POSIX compliant, BSD descendant OS which can interoperate with Linux way better than Windows.
- A proper backup system which backs up whole OS and system state to an external drive, better than old "Windows 7 backup" and miles better than new "OneDrive only Windows Backup".
- Better radios, backend and port bandwidth than its class-equivalent machines. Essentially a loaded MacBook Pro is equivalent to a Z-Workstation Mobile from HP.
...and these are standard in almost every MacBook. I don't go through hoops to beg local distributors to build the machine I like via their configuration wizard, and wait them to import it if they feel like it, and pay 3x of its sticker price because it's a one off import tucked inside a bigger shipment. Even CTO devices by Apple are shipped in a week and comes to my door in another 1-2. I pay the sticker price for the device I want.
Their app needs Google Play Services. To install it on an Android device I'd want to use over my iPhone, I'd have to jump through a bunch of hoops and it would become a project with permanent upkeep. So I use an iPhone instead.
Because that's a short-term, individual solution. But when companies do stuff that's bad for people generally, we want that stuff no longer done, generally.
Like, sure, I could buy medicine that isn't poisoned. But better would be to have no poison medicine - and that's how we got the FDA. Obviously this is extremely different, but the principle is the same: we don't like a behavior by a company, we can make that no longer happen if we want.
You completely missed the point of the post. It isn't about what phone they own. It's about what phone all the users own.
which is the same for the EU's Digital Markets Act. It's not the Smartphone Owner's Act. It's a law for letting business reach customers without having Apple in the middle. Apple (nor Google) can be allowed to have control over such a large market of customers betwen them and nearly every business.
Because Apple are one of the gatekeepers now, that's why they're getting regulated everywhere. It's not like how you can move from a Ford to a Honda, a lot of people have their entire digital lives with notes, chats, photos, videos and thousands of dollars of purchases tied to Apple's account, plus the network effect where the whole family has iPhone because of iMessage. Moving to another phone brands, they'd loose all that.
That's Apple's moat and they're fighting to the death for it because they don't have any other cash cow to milk.
There is no other manufacturer that sells what I want. The alternative is worse (Google) or incompatible with the reality of my daily life (my banks app won't work on it). On the desktop side of things it's getting better, the Framework desktop is interesting, but there's still no REAL alternative yet. Maybe in 5 years.
> There is no other manufacturer that sells what I want.
Not only that, but if there was one it would very likely become very popular. As it is gained market share money and power it that doing all bad things the currently big players are doing (because they tend to increase that money and power) and you're back looking for an alternative again. Regulations, not market forces are the only way to curb these bad behaviors.
Fairphone and a Framework is just fine. What exactly do you do that suggests there is no alternative? I can see absolutely nothing Apple does that no other laptop can.
Then you haven’t lived with a Mac
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> I can see absolutely nothing Apple does that no other laptop can.
Let me check the list.
- High DPI screen with color calibration and automatic white balancing, working 99% of the time. Ensuring your eyes always sees the color it expects without fatigue. Plus, HDR.
- Most decent external screens you plug will also have their correct color profile installed on the OS level, so they'll not show funny colors.
- 15+ hour battery life on an ordinary laptop if you don't abuse it. Even my M1 can handle me for a couple of days with light usage.
- Good quality speakers, decent stereo separation without being too tinny or boomy.
- Great quality cameras and microphones for its size.
- Great, backlight illuminated keyboard, with no flex.
- A realistic 8-10 year usage life without babying it.
- A full metal body, and keeping it light for that amount of metal.
- Built-in biometrics which runs on a proper secure enclave, without any "touch here, write absurdly long pasword you don't know there" shenanigans of Windows.
- A POSIX compliant, BSD descendant OS which can interoperate with Linux way better than Windows.
- A proper backup system which backs up whole OS and system state to an external drive, better than old "Windows 7 backup" and miles better than new "OneDrive only Windows Backup".
- Better radios, backend and port bandwidth than its class-equivalent machines. Essentially a loaded MacBook Pro is equivalent to a Z-Workstation Mobile from HP.
...and these are standard in almost every MacBook. I don't go through hoops to beg local distributors to build the machine I like via their configuration wizard, and wait them to import it if they feel like it, and pay 3x of its sticker price because it's a one off import tucked inside a bigger shipment. Even CTO devices by Apple are shipped in a week and comes to my door in another 1-2. I pay the sticker price for the device I want.
Do you need more?
Sent from my Linux desktop system.
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How it is possible that your bank don't have an Android app if they have an iPhone app?
Their app needs Google Play Services. To install it on an Android device I'd want to use over my iPhone, I'd have to jump through a bunch of hoops and it would become a project with permanent upkeep. So I use an iPhone instead.
> The alternative is worse (Google)
For many developers of mobile apps there is no switching and there is no choice. Many apps are only viable if they are available on both platforms.
Because that's a short-term, individual solution. But when companies do stuff that's bad for people generally, we want that stuff no longer done, generally.
Like, sure, I could buy medicine that isn't poisoned. But better would be to have no poison medicine - and that's how we got the FDA. Obviously this is extremely different, but the principle is the same: we don't like a behavior by a company, we can make that no longer happen if we want.
You completely missed the point of the post. It isn't about what phone they own. It's about what phone all the users own.
which is the same for the EU's Digital Markets Act. It's not the Smartphone Owner's Act. It's a law for letting business reach customers without having Apple in the middle. Apple (nor Google) can be allowed to have control over such a large market of customers betwen them and nearly every business.
I can't make my customers switch phone.
Thank heavens that we run our world based on laws and not company's intents.
This attitude is why there's very little useful software for the iPhone compared to something like Linux.
Instead all you have is spamy garbage full of ads and addictive social media cybernetics.
Because Apple are one of the gatekeepers now, that's why they're getting regulated everywhere. It's not like how you can move from a Ford to a Honda, a lot of people have their entire digital lives with notes, chats, photos, videos and thousands of dollars of purchases tied to Apple's account, plus the network effect where the whole family has iPhone because of iMessage. Moving to another phone brands, they'd loose all that.
That's Apple's moat and they're fighting to the death for it because they don't have any other cash cow to milk.
Non Apple user btw.