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Comment by fennecbutt

8 days ago

It's a valid topic for discussion. Even as a foreigner who was in UK on a visa and eventually got ilr I'm still concerned about it.

The current situation regarding small boats is not sustainable, particularly when it's proven that the majority are not fleeing persecution but are economic migrants. They're taking advantage of a system designed to help people in trouble, how could you defend that?

And when does it end? Will the UK always accept small boats ad infinitum?

I played by the (harsh) rules and got here legitimately. Why should I have bothered.

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Arkhaine_kupo  8 days ago

> It's a valid topic for discussion

not on a thread about vpn useage

> The current situation regarding small boats is not sustainable

the current situation regarding small boats is the inevitable conclusion to a badly implemented brexit policy and a negligent tory party rule over 13 years. Startmer took 5 months in power to talk to France and have them agree to tackle it on their side of the water. Also no brexit, no boats. The anti immigration chest thumpers caused the problem and then scurried like rats. Farage was impossible to be found the year after brexit won, dude aws the face and suddenly wanted to part of the "glory"

  • hollerith  8 days ago

    If we are going to start discouraging tangents on HN, which would be a drastic change, we're not going to do it selectively for topics you don't want to see discussed.

    • Arkhaine_kupo  8 days ago

      >If we are going to start discouraging tangents on HN, which would be a drastic change

      This is straight from the guidelines

      "Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. "

      Bringing up immigration policy in regards to a new internet identification legislation seems less like a "discourageable tangent" and more of an "overt breaking of one of the few enforceable rules of the site"

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  • krona  8 days ago

    > badly implemented brexit policy and a negligent tory party rule over 13 years.

    How about:

    2018 - Sandhurst Treaty

    2022 - Interior Ministers’/ Home Secretaries’ joint declaration of November 14th

    2023 - UK-France Joint Leaders' Declaration

    Yes, these did nothing. Starmer's/Macron's joint declaration will also do nothing. If you don't understand why, try starting with the past 204 years of anglo/French relations.

  • mhh__  8 days ago

    One of the topics being censored on twitter is footage of what many would call a side effect of migration.