Comment by kubb
14 days ago
That’s just false. Hate speech is (simplifying) when you blame a group of people for everything that is bad in the world, and the only thing that group can do to appease you is to cease to exist.
You know like the Nazis and the Jews.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/hate-...
>>public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence toward a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation (= the fact of being gay, etc.)
Yeah that pretty much sums it up, thanks!
So hating on someone publicly for being an immigrant is hate speech but criticizing policy isn’t.
Godwin's law... But to stay a little more serious: I get your point of view. The question is, is it a good idea to give up anonymity for everyone to fight the nazis? Should we give up our freedom to fight terrorism?
I don’t see the connection with terrorism. What’s certain is that speech has consequences.
This isn't as good of an example as you think it is. There are crazy communists out there that routinely associate criticism of the existing banking institutions with antisemitism.
By this logic we are no longer allowed to reform banking no matter how flawed it is, even if the flaws of the banking system give rise to actual antisemitism due to unaddressed economic dysfunction. Dysfunction that the banking critics point out and which they claim has more to do with how those institutions are structured and what policies they have enacted than the people inhabiting or benefiting from them.
Dumber yet. There are even more extreme offshoots of communism where simply criticizing capitalism without being a communist means you are a fascist or nazi. It's pretty clear to me that those communists believe they have a monopoly on criticizing capitalism and if you gave them enough power, they'd enforce that monopoly on everyone.
Even dumber. The moment their communist utopia fails, they will start looking for "capitalist" scapegoats rather than fix their institutions according to the non-communist criticism and commit exactly the crimes they projected onto you, which you never had the intention of ever doing, because you actually are somewhat of a pacifist and genuinely believe that your policies and institutions are inclusive to all and work without the need for scapegoats or enforcement through violence.