← Back to context

Comment by A_D_E_P_T

4 days ago

That's almost exactly what people said about the appetite -- about the biochemical pathways which govern hunger, which are known to be massively redundant and overlapping.

But then Ozempic was released and it turned out there was a shortcut after all.

Which is not to say that such things are necessarily "healthy" or desirable, just that you can't rule out that biochemically-modifiable characteristics, however complex, have "one simple trick!" you can use to attain a desired end.

That's a pretty poor comparison. A drug that makes you not need sleep is more like a drug that prevents you from starving to death without eating.

  • I mean that would be TPN, where people can be kept alive indefinitely through intravenous fluids (and nutrients).

And exactly as I said, Ozempic does more harm in the long run.

  • There are mountains of data that show it actually has long term benefits beyond weight loss (beyond even the obvious health markers that improve due to losing weight). I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the majority of the population ends up taking next gen drugs in this space, most of them purely for longevity.

    • Reminds me of the alleged neurological benefits from use of hallucinogenics - but they're still banned.

  • Proof? Doesn't need to be specific -- a general study showing higher all-cause mortality in Ozempic users compared to a control group over a long period would be just fine.