Comment by NitpickLawyer
6 days ago
Asking someone to maintain a "vibecoded" project isn't vibecoding anymore, by definition. I feel this whole thing is going the "AGI" way. Everyone is shouting above everyone else, using different definitions and biases, and there is 0 productive discussion going on.
Vibe coding - you don't care about the code. You don't look at the code. You just ask, test that what you received works, and go on with your life.
LLM-assisted coding - you care about the code. You will maintain that code. You take responsibility and treat it as any other software development job, with everything that's required.
Same same, but different.
From personal experience, I'd like to add "I don't know what I'm doing, but LLM helps me pretending that I do" coding. And yes, that code ended up in production and caused issues. It was coded outside of the development department.
The productive discussion left the chat some shareholder rounds ago.
Is it much more different (in quality) to "I don't know what I'm doing, but [SO/learn x in 24h bootcamp] helps me pretend that I do"?
I guess I see your point in quantity. I could see how this would be more widespread than c/p from SO. And the results would "look" better crafted at a glance, but might explode later on.
> Is it much more different (in quality) to "I don't know what I'm doing, but [SO/learn x in 24h bootcamp] helps me pretend that I do"?
I would argue "yes" - it is far more easier to pretend with LLM, because the loops are way more faster. When copy & pasting from StackOverflow, you need to, at least, gain some type of understanding from what you are doing. There is no one to help you. With an LLM, you can keep on asking questions - if you hit a roadblock, you scrap the last 10 iterations and start over, because it is so fast.
It’s a spectrum.
I care when it doesn’t just work.
I hardly look when it does.