Amen. Mankind is not going to Mars as an escape route. Elon uses this as a way of generating a vision/dream.
When mankind makes serious progress to any of a) living at the poles in scale b) living underwater at scale c) living subterranean (underground) at scale, get back to me and we can talk about offworld habitation (Mars, Venus, or Luna). All of these are hard enough, and provide mitigation against various disasters, at some level. They're hard enough problems to solve as it is.
Parent didn't say _anything_ and frankly doesn't really meet HN's criteria for good discourse. All it said at time of my reply was "He is not doing that".
He is doing that. Whether you believe him, or whether he succeeds, or whether he's lying, is an entirely different conversation and something I can't _prove_. All I can prove is that there are public claims he is doing it, and he keeps saying it in interviews.
I'm surprised this kind of garbage is allowed on Wikipedia. The whole article reads like a PR statement, constantly stating what is "possible" or "planned", but never any actual progress in terms of missions.
Basically lots of forward-looking hot air like a financials press release for shareholders.
Amen. Mankind is not going to Mars as an escape route. Elon uses this as a way of generating a vision/dream.
When mankind makes serious progress to any of a) living at the poles in scale b) living underwater at scale c) living subterranean (underground) at scale, get back to me and we can talk about offworld habitation (Mars, Venus, or Luna). All of these are hard enough, and provide mitigation against various disasters, at some level. They're hard enough problems to solve as it is.
So you claim contrary to interviews and public reporting and Wikipedia that no, he isn’t working towards that until he gets us there.
EDS is a thing, I guess. Sad to see on HN of all places.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Mars_colonization_pro...
Parent didn't say he doesn't pay lip service to it, or doesn't make bullshit timelines and promises.
Parent didn't say _anything_ and frankly doesn't really meet HN's criteria for good discourse. All it said at time of my reply was "He is not doing that".
He is doing that. Whether you believe him, or whether he succeeds, or whether he's lying, is an entirely different conversation and something I can't _prove_. All I can prove is that there are public claims he is doing it, and he keeps saying it in interviews.
One can be both "working toward" a goal and "making bullshit timelines and promises" at the same time, those things are completely orthogonal.
I'm surprised this kind of garbage is allowed on Wikipedia. The whole article reads like a PR statement, constantly stating what is "possible" or "planned", but never any actual progress in terms of missions.
Basically lots of forward-looking hot air like a financials press release for shareholders.
Utter nonsense.