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Comment by anonzzzies

1 day ago

The people who start the cancellation should also face punishment imho. I think it's very weird you can ruin someone's life and get away with it. If they had something, go to the police. This should be immediately liable.

I think some sort of registry is in order. Like sexual offenders. One that mandates that anyone on it has to start all of their interactions with other people by stating that they are registered offender. This then allows taking necessary actions to protect from false allegations.

They do, it's libel, and in this case there was a court decision against the signatories that were in the target's jurisdiction. I have little doubt he'd also win cases if he chased any of the others in their local courts but I think he just wants all this behind him.

I mean it is libel / defamation, but as the author describes, getting justice takes a long time and is very expensive, and that's assuming you even know who made the claims and they live in the same country as you.

Besides, there may not be a criminal case / the police may do nothing. One of the accusers only came forward three years after the end of the two-year relationship; it's not unheard of for someone to realise that what happened was wrong years much later, at which point the police is less likely to do anything because any physical evidence will be gone by then, and it's one person's words against another's.

  • I am only referring to getting some sort of lynch mob together to do this in public should be liable. The rest can be investigated etc; if you have two ex's (?) saying you are a predator or whatnot, that's fine, but doing so in public, contacting people you know, making 'open letters' in the background should simply be an immediate police visit and investigation possibly resulting in fines or jail. As this case is, from that perspective not hard; even if the guy turns out to be a serial rapist; that's a separate point; you cannot (well should not be able to) organise lynch mobs to deal with it.

  • I know this is an unpopular take, but if it takes you years to "understand" that something was wrong, probably it wasn't wrong enough for a public accusation.

    • It doesn't matter anyway; it's a case for the police. Like all the Epstein shit around Stallman/Minsky stuff; it's simply not up to the crowds to do this. If there is actually something it has to be proven in court and otherwise stfu.

    • No actually, it would be; I'm going to pull the "think of the children" card, most victims of CSA don't fully understand what is happening, that it's wrong, and what they should do, especially not in a family setting. This is why a lot of these cases, including the Epstein case or the church cases, take years if not decades to be fully understood and action to be taken on it.

      The #metoo movement gave victims the push, visibility and protections they needed to stop hiding their abuse / protecting their abusers, sometimes decades after it happens.

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