Comment by nyc_data_geek1
1 day ago
Except, in many cases the police and courts shield and enable abuse for years or decades, oftentimes at scale. So in reality, this approach is effectively one that silences victims and enables abusers.
1 day ago
Except, in many cases the police and courts shield and enable abuse for years or decades, oftentimes at scale. So in reality, this approach is effectively one that silences victims and enables abusers.
Then the focus should be on reforming the police and courts, not on pivoting to vigilante justice.
Following this logic, there would be no remedy for these issues at all until the police and courts are successfully reformed. Which means much more continued harm done.
No, that doesn’t follow at all.
What does is that reform should apparently be a much more urgent issue than it seems to be.
Right but now you potentially create two victims. One who is at the mercy of no system and the other at the mercy of a flawed system. At least the flawed system has a process for when it gets things wrong.
... commenting on a case of abusive allegations.
The #metoo movement was in response to decades (centuries? millennia?) of abuse being basically unaddressable. It's totally fair to call it an overcorrection, but a correction was still needed. Are abusive accusations okay? Of course not, but there are far few stories of abusive accusations than accused with many accusers. Reverting to never believing accusers is just the status quo throughout human history, which is what metoo was an overcorrection to. It's just kicking the can.
This is one of those things that is obviously true but goes a pale grey and fades away from view because people are uncomfortable being confronted with obvious truth.
I don't think it is fair to call #metoo an overcorrection. An overcorrection would imply the pendulum swung too far in the other direction, and it just didn't.
There was one high-profile trial, of a man who was definitely guilty. A bunch of other accused people faced zero consequences. In total, the #metoo movement raised awareness and was dwarfed by its own backlash.
An overcorrection would be what people fear-monger about: men arrested for innocently holding doors open, etc. None of that happened.