Comment by ratelimitsteve
6 days ago
We could offer them an alternate social structure that they're welcome in. It beats calling them deplorables and trying to browbeat them.
6 days ago
We could offer them an alternate social structure that they're welcome in. It beats calling them deplorables and trying to browbeat them.
This doesn't work. Respectability politics just backfires, this makes the extreme more extreme, not the other way around.
No, this will not work.
The people who have the most success in terms of engagement against Anti-Vaxxers are not the pro-vax or normal people. Its the Anti-anti-vaxxers
The vibe of being able to fight for a moderate position, extremely - is what is currently working in debates.
Being treated like a worthy adversary, or being beaten by someone they can respect is one of the avenues is likely going to succeed more.
Why should I offer charity to people who keep referring to *all* Dems as scum of the earth and similar?
Depends on what you want. Do you want to win, or do you want to spite the people who hurt your feelings?
Given the complete destruction of norms and institutions over the last year, the country is already lost for at least a decade, if not several. "Winning" is now a fantasy for our kids to maybe enjoy one day. I'm not sure that spite is a particularly bad option in this scenario.
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Seriously I wish we could split the country. Let the deplorables live by themselves un-vaxxed, with guns, religion and all of their other non-sense. And let us normal people live by ourselves with science and compassion.
(Unfortunately this will not happen. Because two things will have to be split: national debt and the nuclear arsenal. Heavy Sigh…)
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“All of those people are deplorable and garbage because they think I am the scum of the earth (because I think they are all deplorable and garbage)”
I wish all y’all would just own up to the fact you hate each other for a million different reasons and can’t play nice together.