Comment by unsupp0rted
20 hours ago
She has vastly more power than he has. With one sentence she could have him arrested or at least temporarily detained for nothing.
Just one comment thread up there's a person rushing to believe her and distrust the dad:
> "And don't get me wrong, I'm strongly inclined to believe women and I generally distrust men."
^ from the other comment thread above this one
> She has vastly more power than he has.
Just secretly record her - she then ultimately has less power:
1) She doesn't know
2) He can optionally choose to employ (or not) this information
3) Police may not be civilly liable for escalation afterwards, but she likely will be
Let's be specific about the supposed power in this situation.
If he called the cops and said "hey there's a crying kid and I can't find the parents" what power does she have over him there?
If she called the cops and said "I saw a man bothering this girl" what's going to happen in practice for the supposed crime of "talking to a kid who was crying at a playground"? Any asshole can make any false accusation against anyone at any time, here there's not even the slightest evidence of any harm, how seriously would it be taken? Cops drive out, see no man bothering anyone, drive off?
If she posted a video online of "man talking non-aggressively/non-threateningly to girl, then walking around talking to other adults" how much outrage is that going to generate?
The videos that generate huge amounts of outrage and get re-shared have disturbing contents, not just headlines.
I see so many online accounts of these "must walk on eggshells" worldview stories. Smells like an echo chamber, especially because when people self-report to things like "I avoid encounters with women because of this" then I'm not sure how much credence to put into the psychology of womens' behavior from someone with self-professed much-more-limited-interaction-with-them than I have.
This roughly tracks with my own thinking on the scenario. I don't understand the perceived danger.
This is a Dad who also frequently goes to playgrounds. Tbh, in my experience, most moms are super kind and generous to a man who's out alone playing with his kid because it's the sort of thing they want to encourage/reward.
The only times I've ever felt discriminated against as a male parent by female parents is in group play settings where the women form a clique and don't really want you to talk to them, but even then they're usually mature enough not to have the kids feel any of this, and nobody owes me letting me socialize with them, so it's whatever.
The danger was perceived precisely because it's rare and uncommon and the whole thing unusual. It's the only time I've every personally encountered something like this, so it made me believe that this woman knew exactly what she was doing and we interpreted her words as an insinuated threat. Why else would she say something like that about a man who everyone could clearly see was just trying to help? No, there was no confusion. Whatever she was up to was malicious.
Because it's so uncommon is why my dad was even going around trying to help this girl in the first place, because he never imagined something like that happening. But then we got a hint of it, and decided to just disengage and not risk it.
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Would any of those things have happened? Maybe? Maybe not? No idea. Wasn't going to find out.
The OP article goes into great lengths giving a first-hand account of what kind of catastrophic damage a mere bad-faith nefarious accusation can cause, no matter how "obvious" its falsehood may be or how little credence it would hold in court.
Did you just jump into comments without reading the article in the post?