Comment by DanielVZ
2 days ago
> How can "political reasons" be false? I can imagine a lot of political reasons for a woman to "cancel" a man, especially if they're misogynist, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, or transphobic, but the vagueness of your anecdote is suspect.
What was false were the claims and I can say that because I was involved in the situations she described to cancel him.
I said “petty political reasons” as a summary for conciseness sake. But if you want more details:
- after they broke up she joined a certain left wing political party (student federation elections are a big deal here)
- during the election cycle my friend was part of the opposing team and they were doing quite well
- so the girl was approached by her party leadership to cancel him. They had this whole “cancel the opposition” operation
- Turns out everything was false and was done to benefit the left wing candidates and end the candidacy of the opposing party. which worked. They had to take down their candidacy to deal with all the problems that come from being cancelled.
> Depending on what kind of person you are, there are plenty more serious and realistic risks that getting randomly cancelled by your social circle.
I’m not so sure about that. Being cancelled is pretty serious, and quite risky. I’ve seen it quite a few times (this one being the closest I’ve been to people involved), and it’s so easy to avoid that I prefer to just do it. For example if I could avoid driving a car I would, but I do it because otherwise it is prohibitively expensive time wise.
“Opposite” of a “certain left wing political party” sounds not at all dissimilar to the reactionary extremist right wing folks here in the US with the only cohesive policy element of “own the libs”. They too suffer from a significantly higher rate of being cancelled. In fact, your story reminds me a bit of the Clinton scandals and the first Trump election. How does the saying go? Lie down with dogs and get up with fleas?
Not to digress, but really, if you’re not involved with politics and you’re not espousing hatred towards people, your risk of getting cancelled is truly and realistically low. But if you’re not talking to roughly half of the entire population because of that incident, visit a therapist. You’re missing out on some great connections.
I just want to double-check. Is your contention that being right wing is sufficient justification to lie in order to destroy someone’s reputation? I have no love for the right wing but that’s a morally repugnant stance, id it is indeed the stance you’re taking.
It’s an extremist stance. Specially considering that this is not US politics where left wing is generally just right wing and at most center. If I had to describe these parties in US political landscape it would be something like Bernie sanders left wing vs Joe Biden right wing.
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No, no need to lie and no justification for it. The story sounds… odd to say the least.
If people wanna get upset about other people’s college drama and avoid women, sure I guess that’s their prerogative.
But in the context of US politics, most Trump voters do hold views that are socially damning and generally fall under the umbrella of hate towards someone that’s not a straight white cisgender christian man. An official government account made a post using 14 words with two H’s capitalized, an unmistakeable neo-Nazi reference, in the last month. So no, there should be no respect for people that continue to embrace this Project 2025 dystopian bullshit. Still, lies aren’t justified.
Every time.