Comment by throwaway290
1 day ago
You are quoting law concepts. If there was proof enough for legal action then "cancellation" would be not necessary right? Just go to jail for rape.
Often problem behavior is not criminal enough OR there is no proof to make it criminal enough.
If you were the victim what proof do you imagine your will have in this case? There would be no incriminating text messages. Everything is fine until he gets your college ass drunk in the privacy of own airbnb. The cards are stacked. A mature perp picks situation when there is no proof and no witnesses. And it is statistics that 9 out of 10 times it is a man.
Maybe the only proof if any after this would be STDs. Do you want to announce to the world you have some incurable virus that you will spread to new partner who you would want to have kids with? etc
Yea it sucks that fixing this mess makes men uncomfortable. If you are scared about getting drive by cancelled, you know who to blame. Other men.
> You are quoting law concepts
It's a concept based on the historic lesson that pushing innocent people is worse than not punishing guilty people. You seem to disagree though.
> Yea it sucks that fixing
This is shuffling which innocent gets to suffer, but is not fixing anything.
The historic lesson is that men and especially men in power commonly abuse their position ranging from harassment to rape and legal system will fall over itself to serve them. That lesson led to metoo and stuff. Look it up.
> This is shuffling which innocent gets to suffer, but is not fixing anything.
Bro I really really hope you are not trying to compare wrongful cancellation and rape.
> The historic lesson
_The_ lesson? As in, there's no other lesson? Pretty convenient ignoring everything else if it doesn't fit your goal.
> Bro I really really hope you are not trying to compare wrongful cancellation and rape.
The base difference is really between cancelling someone or not giving a victim the relief that the perpetrator got punished, since if the crime already happened you cannot undo that, however I can see why this doesn't include punishing someone as a deterrent for others to avoid performing similar crimes in the first place.
On comparing wrongful cancellation and rape however, have you ever tried imagining yourself losing your friends, your job, your house, all your savings etc etc for something you didn't do? This is torture, most people would go crazy from it, at least I would. Can you even begin recovering from this? Not to downplay rape, but at least rape victims get recognized as such, get help and support from other people and have some chance of at least partially recovering.
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> Bro I really really hope you are not trying to compare wrongful cancellation and rape.
You have to compare such things. A cancellation if strong enough has ruined your entire social life, all your friends and family now shuns you, that is worse than rape. Of course a "cancellation" which is just some posts online and stays online is not a big deal, but some victims of false accusations do get their entire social life destroyed. Historically rape did lead to such cancelations for the woman, she was no longer fit for marriage and was seen as used goods, so then it was worse of course, but we no longer see it that way.
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