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Comment by ath3nd

3 days ago

> So they hurt quality of life by making it more painful to get anywhere, taking time away from everyone’s lives

The average American mind can't comprehend European public transport and not sitting in a traffic jam and smog for 1 hr to go to their workplace. Some of us walk or cycle for 15 min on our commutes, and some of us even ride bicycles with our children to school. It takes me as much time to reach my workplace with a bike as with a car if you take parking, and one of those things makes me fitter and is for free.

I guess that's one of the reasons people in the US live shorter and sadder than us Europeans. Being stuck in traffic sure makes people grumpy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expe...

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-...

Take better from both worlds -- 1 hour bike commute and save on healthcare costs too.

It really depends on the city. In Paris, I saw crackheads shooting next to me, people defecating in the train, licking the handle bars (true!), and so on, so yeah...Paris subway is great in theory, in practice, at 8AM, it's war, but smellier.

And the air pollution in the French subway is much worse than what you have outside. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S143846392...

I suspect that most of the bike drivers are affluent service workers who can't be arsed to share the public transport with the plebs.

  • > I suspect that most of the bike drivers are affluent service workers who can't be arsed to share the public transport with the plebs.

    Fairly often they are postal or delivery workers. Are those the affluent service workers that we keep hearing about?

    • My comment was not about those people, who are minimum-wage temp workers and a tiny minority compared to the mass of cyclists in Paris.

      In the case of Helsinki, they don't have a particularly outstanding biking infrastructure, but they have stellar public transports. And clean, very clean. I'd choose that everyday, which is much more inclusive and far less dangerous for everyone. Especially in a aging society.