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Comment by tamimio

2 days ago

I believe there should be an industry standard to distinguish between engineers (the ones who spent 4-5 years in school) and software engineers (not necessarily those who spent 4-5 years in school) by name only. Either one should not be called engineers anymore, or the other should be called legacy engineers or something along these lines. I was expecting to search through articles of IEEE, RF, hardware maybe, or even other disciplines like civil and mechanical. The word "engineer" lost its meaning in the past ~2 decades because everyone now who touches a PC suddenly can call themselves an engineer, diluting the market now with hordes of bootcampers and "prompt engineers". How come we don't see the same in other white-collar jobs like doctors, nurses, lawyers, or even blue-collar ones that now require some sort of control over who calls themselves or is able to work in a trade by having apprenticeships? P. Eng isn't enforced, so it's meaningless.

I have no idea how you can dismiss P.Eng as being meaningless. Engineer, yes, certainly overloaded. But P.Eng? It literally implies licensure.

That's the industry standard.

My GP and my veterinarian and also my librarian are all doctors, but less ambiguously they are respectively MD, DVM and PhD.

  • I am not the one who's dismissing it, industry does. You can get hired as an engineer, holding an engineering title with zero engineering education nowadays, you can have senior or principal title as well, and no formal education either. Find me one hospital that would hire a nurse that never had formal education or went through acquiring the proper license? No wonder a doctor can earn 4 times more than an engineer nowadays.