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Comment by djeastm

15 hours ago

If we replace the word "lying" with "deception" does that change anything?

Poker players very seldom outright lie, like saying out loud "hey everybody, my hand is great!", and it's usually not just simple "deception" either.

How about "behaving in a way that increases the probability of your particular adversaries making incorrect inferences about your situation"?

  • > How about "behaving in a way that increases the probability of your particular adversaries making incorrect inferences about your situation"?

    I'd call that lying with extra steps.

    (Which to be clear, im fine with in the context of a game (and in certain contexts even in real life). Plenty of sports can be traced back to ritualized ways of practising to murder people. Take all the field sports of track and field)

  • So you're trying to manipulate people into believing false things about you?

    Is that better or worse than calling it deception?

I wouldn’t consider the type of deception fully within the bounds of a game the type of deception I would want to avoided teaching my kids.