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Comment by Lerc

2 days ago

Do you believe you are in the majority? I'm quite confident that being in favour of hard labour is a minority opinion in New Zealand.

I guess it is at least consistent with your belief that there is a mandate for Project 2025.

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terminalshort  2 days ago

I really don't understand how you can possibly believe that given your prior statement:

> I live in a country where 91.78% of the population voted for a referendum that bought back hard labour in prisons.

  • Lerc  2 days ago

    It is consistent with my experience that most people seem to not realise that they voted for hard labour.

    That is indeed the entire theme of this thread, That people can give an answer to a question that in some way does not reflect their honestly held opinion.

    • terminalshort  2 days ago

      > most people seem to not realise that they voted for hard labour

      This is incredibly anecdotal, a major victim of selection bias, and also there are possibly effects of agreeableness here b/c it seems like you may be part of a vocal minority on this issue (and I mean that with absolutely no negative connotations). That said, I don't automatically reject vibes based determinations like this because often the high bandwidth of personal interaction can outweigh the problems with low bandwidth questioning in polls. But in this case, when 90% voted in favor, I have a hard time believing it. I think that what you can safely conclude from your experience is that a lot of people didn't know what they were voting for. If you wanted to say maybe it was really 75-25 I could go with that, but 91% in favor (in an actual vote and not a poll) is pretty convincing to me.

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    • anigbrowl  2 days ago

      idk, maybe they're actually in favor of hard labour (which was after all spelled out in the question) and they're just telling you what they think you want to hear so you don't bug them about it. A lot of people are happy to lie this way.