Comment by BLKNSLVR

I have multiple times had the thought that it's not actually possible to "get ahead" because it takes 110% of available time (because no one gets enough sleep) just to tread water.

Investments and Property I see as kind of essential to having much of a retirement, but these things need knowledge and research to get a handle on initially and to closely manage going forwards, such that they could be a part-time job on their own.

How does that fit around a full time job plus kids school and sports plus maintaining a healthy diet and exercise?

The one thing that all of the above does teach a person, though, is: filtering of bullshit; ability to say no.