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Comment by Talanes

2 days ago

Why would the base state be "No cryptography, no communication, no information" and not "No cryptography, communication, information?"

If we assume a default state of avoiding engagement, the average poker player is giving away more information that could lead to correct inferences by playing than bad information by bluffing. Exactly at which point does the lie happen?

> Why would the base state be "No cryptography, no communication, no information" and not "No cryptography, communication, information?"

Because you treated cryptography as a field in its entirety. I think in practise that is how cryptography as a field works normally. Most secret messages communicated with crypto simply wouldn't be communicated (or just communicated in person) without the availibility of cryptography.

Even if the alternative is communicating in a way open to evesdropping i think there is still an intent requirement.

> Exactly at which point does the lie happen?

When there is intentionality to mislead (including by omission).

If you want to be really nitpicky, the definition i would give would be:

Taking (or failing to take) some action for the purpose of causing an adversary to have incorrect or incomplete beliefs that benefit you.