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Comment by godelski

5 days ago

Definitely. Real world adds lots of complexities and nuances, but I was just trying to make the point that it matters how those inferences compound. That we can't just conclude that compounding inferences decreases likelihood

Well they were talking about a chain, A->B, B->C, C->D.

You're talking about multiple pieces of evidence for the same statement. Your tests don't depend on any of the previous tests also being right.

  • Be careful with your description there, are you sure it doesn't apply to the Bayesian example (which was... illustrative...? And not supposed to be every possible example?)? We calculated f(f(f(x))), so I wouldn't say that this "doesn't depend on the previous 'test'". Take your chain, we can represent it with h(g(f(x))) (or (f∘g∘h)(x)). That clearly fits your case for when f=g=h. Don't lose sight of the abstractions.

    • So in your example you can apply just one test result at a time, in any order. And the more pieces of evidence you apply, the stronger your argument gets.

      f = "The test(s) say the patient is a vampire, with a .01 false positive rate."

      f∘f∘f = "The test(s) say the patient is a vampire, with a .000001 false positive rate."

      In the chain example f or g or h on its own is useless. Only f∘g∘h is relevant. And f∘g∘h is a lot weaker than f or g or h appears on its own.

      This is what a logic chain looks like, adapted for vampirism to make it easier to compare:

      f: "The test says situation 1 is true, with a 10% false positive rate."

      g: "If situation 1 then situation 2 is true, with a 10% false positive rate."

      h: "If situation 2 then the patient is a vampire, with a 10% false positive rate."

      f∘g∘h = "The test says the patient is a vampire, with a 27% false positive rate."

      So there are two key differences. One is the "if"s that make the false positives build up. The other is that only h tells you anything about vampires. f and g are mere setup, so they can only weaken h. At best f and g would have 100% reliability and h would be its original strength, 10% false positive. The false positive rate of h will never be decreased by adding more chain links, only increased. If you want a smaller false positive rate you need a separate piece of evidence. Like how your example has three similar but separate pieces of evidence.

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