Comment by bryanlarsen
6 hours ago
> When did we start being a just society would you say?
I think most historians would agree that it started with the signing of the Magna Carta in 1215.
It was a very small start, it only protected nobles from the king, but it's generally considered to be the start.
If that's the standard, it's ridiculous to say we stopped being a just society in the last 50 years.
Magna Carta didn't make us a just society, it was the start of making us a just society.
Being a just society is not a boolean. We never got 100% there. Nor is it along a single dimension -- you could argue we were more just 50 years ago, as long as you were white.
> could argue we were more just 50 years ago, as long as you were white
Well that is certainly one take. I really don't see how you can argue that position in good faith but I won't spend energy to refute it since you didn't actually argue it at all beyond making the supposition.
> you could argue we were more just 50 years ago, as long as you were white.
"Just" can't mean "in my favor" unless your also say that monarchy was very just, for the king.
Justice includes equality before the law. Without equality there can't be justice.
> I think most historians would agree that it started with the signing of the Magna Carta in 1215.
Ahahaha, this is the most anglocentric thing I've heard in a while. That's not remotely the case, and it's certainly not something an historian would say.