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Comment by eth0up

3 months ago

Hydroxyapatite based paste is incredible, and has astonished a few of my incredulous friends dealing with dental problems.

It always seemed very interesting in a cynical way that Sensodyne Repair and Protect has a European version with hydroxyapatite but doesn't offer it in the US. The only reputable US brand I'm aware of is Dr Collins Biomin, which is excellent but weak on the hydroxyapatite.

I'll be abused for it here, but I'm intractably convinced the ADA and generally despicable US health industry prefer to avoid it due to its efficacy and how much revenue would be lost if it were more common. Say what you will against this, and I'll remain convinced.

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pimlottc  3 months ago

AFAIK the European version of Sensadyne Repair and Protrct uses Novamin, not Hydroxyapatite. From what I can tell, they are similar but separate chemicals.

While not sold directly in the US, Sensadyne with Novamin is available from Amazon (usually from India).

  • eth0up  3 months ago

    Thanks for clarifying that. I'm confused that my head still insists there was hydroxyapatite involved, but I believe you're correct. My information is over a decade old though.

majkinetor  3 months ago

Not everybody agrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYqP5y3iYHo

  • eth0up  3 months ago

    I appreciate the info, but it honestly seems this person is blabbering, barely presenting even anecdotal evidence and literally just saying it's bad because she thinks maybe it is, because, hey look at my friend over here who nods. Definitely makes me wonder if the "Dr" in her handle is more than text.

    That said, I'm not surprised people argue against it. But my teeth haven't "crumbled" after more than a decade of regular apatite use, and that's under various impacts and hard use. If there's any validity to her concerns about it, she should actually discuss them, instead of talking about charcoal and her friend.

BenjiWiebe  3 months ago

What product(s) do you recommend? I'm in the US.

  • eth0up  3 months ago

    Either Biomin, or my first choice, Apagard (from Japan).

    Biomin is cleaner, but weaker.

    I generally choose Apagard though. If you do too, the Premio is a good version with a substantial hydroxyapatite content.

    Try to buy from a reputable seller if Apagard. I'd not worry about Biomin much.

    Edit: also note that these are rinseless pastes, intended to remain on the teeth for as long as they linger. This is where Biomin has an advantage, being cleaner. Spitting is fine, but rinsing will reduce efficacy.

    Edit II: Some will wail in disagreement. I think a waterjet can literally add years to the average lifespan while helping with oral health. Maybe consider one, with simple design and minimal features.

  • chucky_z  3 months ago

    Smart mouth has a flouride + hydroxyapetite. I’ve been using it for a few months now and all my tooth pain is completely gone. I’ve been dealing with issues for years and have a wonderful dentist but really had to get myself in shape and brush 2x and really floss correctly. Anyway, that toothpaste also helped compared to only stannous fluoride paste.