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Comment by jph

4 days ago

You're 100% right IMHO about the convergence of powerful CI pipelines and full build systems. I'm very curious what you'll think if you try Dagger, which is my tool of choice for programming the convergence of CI and build systems. (Not affiliated, just a happy customer)

https://dagger.io/

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karel-3d  4 days ago

I absolutely don't understand what it does from the website. (And there is way too much focus on "agents" on the front page for my tastes, but I guess it's 2025)

edit: all the docs are about "agents"; I don't want AI agents, is this for me at all?

ajb  4 days ago

So, it sounded interesting but they have bet too hard on the "developer marketing" playbook of "just give the minimum amount of explanation to get people to try the stuff".

For example, there is a quick start, so I skip that and click on "core concepts". That just redirects to quick start. There's no obvious reference or background theory.

If I was going to trust something like this I want to know the underlying theory and what guarantees it is trying to make. For example, what is included in a cache key, so that I know which changes will cause a new invocation and which ones will not.