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Comment by n0vella

4 days ago

Do you think these very small models have some utility in the real world? Apart from learning and academic purposes of course.

Yes! To me the primary value is not just as a teaching or toy model. I see a lot o value in repeatable tasks if we think about enterprise and a local fast developer model for individual usage.

Here's some examples that are inspired by previous roles I had outside of Google, where a business I was working in needed real time text processing.

This tutorials were made with Gemma versions from a year ago, but could now be recreated with Gemma 270m

https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemma-for-streaming-ml-... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxhzozLH1Dk

If you LoRa them you can make them VERY VERY good at a small narrow set of tasks, e.g.:

- reply in a specific way, like a specific JSON schema, or in the voice of a character - be very good at classifying text (e.g. emails, or spam) - be a great summarizer for large amounts of text, e.g. turn emails into short titles or url slugs - adding tags/categories per your pre-defined rules (e.g. for communities, tagging content, marketing) - for detecting spam, or duplicates, or flagging things

You won't be able to write code or prose with these, but they're great for a huge array of very narrow set of use cases

What's neat about "stupid" models like this is that they're less likely to go off and dream up a bunch of irrelevant content, because they don't know much about the world / won't have too much context to pull from

Sure, interacting with natural language without expectation that the model contains knowledge. Good for things like tool use and embeddings where the information is all retrieved.

  • Are these small models are trained to privilege "raw intelligence" over factual knowledge? Is there any indication of how much of current model is dedicated to the knowledge of multiple languages and tons of facts rather than pure understanding and reasoning?

    • The evaluations provide this indication. You'll see MMLU, GPQA, Big Bench etc in reports for many models. Those numbers provide the indication you're looking for.

      To answer a question you didn't ask. With small models especially we need to make choices as to which to focus on. For this model we focused on text summarization and instruction following, with the idea that users would finetune to gain performance on the task set that is relevant to them

It seems to be more often correct than wrong for multilingual translation tasks(source text from[1][2]). Rough, but probably useful as traveler's phrase books.

  You 
  Translate to English: Рошешуа́р (фр. Rochechouart) — місто, муніципалітет у Франції, у регіоні Нова Аквітанія, департамент Верхня В'єнна. Населення — 3637 осіб (2022)[1]. Муніципалітет розташований на відстані[2] близько 360 км на південь від Парижа, 34 км на захід від Ліможа.

  gemma-3-270m-it-qat
  Here's the translation:

  "Rochechouart is a city in France, a municipality located in the region of New Aeterna, department within the Upper Vienne Province. The population is 3637 people (2022). The city is situated at a distance of approximately 360 kilometers from Paris, 34 km from Lyon.

  You
  Translate to English: Bộ Công Thương đề xuất hỗ trợ hộ gia đình lắp điện mặt trời mái nhà, có hệ thống lưu trữ tối đa 2-3 triệu đồng, hỗ trợ lãi suất vay trong tối đa ba năm. Nội dung được Bộ Công Thương đưa ra tại dự thảo lần 3 Quyết định của Thủ tướng về chính sách hỗ trợ cho hộ gia đình lắp đặt điện mặt trời mái nhà tự sản, tự tiêu và hệ thống lưu trữ điện.

  gemma-3-270m-it-qat
  The Ministry of Industry and Trade proposes supporting households with solar panels in their homes, with a maximum savings of 2-3 million đồng, providing loan assistance for up to 3 years. The content of the Ministry's decision at the Third Review of the Government's Policy on Support for Households Installing Solar Panels in Homes, approved by the Prime Minister about the policy support for households installing solar panels themselves, and the system storage capacity is maximum 2-3 million đồng.

1: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B5%D1%88...

2: https://vnexpress.net/lap-dien-mat-troi-mai-nha-tu-dung-co-t...

  • For comparison, here's what I got from the 27B variant:

      gemma3:27b-it-qat
      Rochechouart (French: Rochechouart) is a town and commune in France, in the Nouvelle-Aquitaine region, Department of Haute-Vienne. The population is 3,637 (2022)[1]. The commune is located approximately 360 km south of Paris, 34 km west of Limoges.
    
      gemma3:27b-it-qat
      The Ministry of Industry and Trade proposes supporting households installing rooftop solar power systems, with a maximum support of 2-3 million VND for systems including energy storage. This support would also include interest rate subsidies on loans for a maximum of three years. This content was presented by the Ministry of Industry and Trade in the third draft of a Decision by the Prime Minister regarding support policies for households installing self-generated, self-consumed rooftop solar power systems and energy storage systems.