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Comment by gruez

3 days ago

>Not only is Anubis a poorly thought out solution from an AI sympathizer [...]

But the project description describes it as a project to stop AI crawlers?

> Weighs the soul of incoming HTTP requests to stop AI crawlers

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throw84a747b4  3 days ago

Why would a company that wants to stop AI crawlers give talks on LLMs and diffusion models at AI conferences?

Why would they use AI art for the first Anubis mascot until GitHub users called out the hypocrisy on the issue tracker?

Why would they use Stable Diffusion art in their blogposts until Mastodon and Bluesky users called them out on it?

  • cyanydeez  3 days ago

    Likely the only way to stop AI is with purpose, fundamentally sound "machine learning", aka, AI.

    AI slop is mass produced, but there's likely great potential for really useful AI models with very limited scopes.

  • Imustaskforhelp  3 days ago

    I am not again AI art completely since I think of it as an editing instead of art itself. My thoughts on AI art are nuanced and worth discussing some other day, lets talk about the author of anubis/story of anubis

    So, I hope you know the entire story behind Anubis, firstly they were hosting their own git server (I think?) and amazon's ai related department was basically ddosing their server in some sense by trying to scrape it and they created anubis in a way to prevent that.

    The idea isn't that new, it is just proof of work and they created it firstly for their own use and I think that they are An AI researcher/ related to AI, so for them using AI pics wasn't that big of a deal and pretty sure that they had some reason behind it and even that has been changed.

    Stop whining about free projects/labour man. The same people comment oh well these AI scrapers are scraping so many websites and taking livelihood of website makers and now you have someone who just gave it to ya for free and you are nitpicking the wrong things.

    You can just fork it without the anime images or without the AI thing if you don't align with them and their philosophy.

    Man now I feel the mandela effect as I read it somewhere on their blog or any thing that they themselves feel the hypocrisy or something along that (pardon me if I am wrong, I usually am) But they themselves (I think?) would like to get rid of working in the AI industry while making anti AI scraper but they might need more donations iirc and they themselves know the hypocrisy.

    • johnnyanmac  3 days ago

      > My thoughts on AI art are nuanced and worth discussing some other day

      If the argument is all this AI support for an anti-AI crawler, I don't think it's a good argument to ignore it.

      and as long as the 3C's aren't followed, there's no subtly here. You don't get to use "edited" art in a commercial product except in fair use cases.

      >Stop whining about free projects/labour man.

      Yes, I'm sure this sort of argument is coming from someone with very subtle and nuanced thoughts. "Free" ruined the internet very quickly when corporations figured out that's all they need for entry. They can monetize behind the scenes or after market capture.

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    • shkkmo  3 days ago

      > Stop whining about free projects/labour man. The same people comment oh well these AI scrapers are scraping so many websites and taking livelihood of website makers and now you have someone who just gave it to ya for free and you are nitpicking the wrong things.

      That isn't the issue. The issue is that this tool is not fit for purpose and is inappropriate to be used by the projects that have adopted it.

      The proof of work scheme is idiotic. As explained in the article, it's super easy to mine enough tokens to bypass for any bad actors, while it interfers and wastes the time of good actors.

      It's almost like the author deliberately designed a tool that only looks like it is doing something while actually trivially allowing the very thing it was supposedly built to prevent.

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