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Comment by echelon

3 days ago

> The biggest grip I have with Github is the app is painfully slow. And by slow, I mean browser tab might freeze level slow.

Javascript at scale combined with teams that have to move fast and ship features is a recipe for this.

At least it's not Atlassian.

Stash (now BitBucket Server) had the best code review going, head and shoulders above GitHub to the point I thought GitHub would obviously adopt their approach. But I imagine Atlassian has now made it slow and useless like they do with all their products and acquisitions.

  • Stash was not an acquisition. Stash was built from the ground up inside Atlassian during its golden age, by a bunch of engineers who really cared about performance. Though it helped that they didn't have Jira's 'problem' of having 8 figures of revenue hanging off a terrible database schema designed a decade ago.

    You might be thinking of Fisheye/Crucible, which were acquisitions, and suffered the traditional fate of being sidelined.

    (You are 100% correct that Stash/Bitbucket Server has also been sidelined, but that has everything to do with their cloud SaaS model generating more revenue than selling self-hosted licenses. The last time I used it circa 2024, it was still way faster than Bitbucket Cloud though.)

    Source: worked at Atlassian for a long time but left a few years ago.

  • Bit Bucket had a git-related tool called Stash? I love Bit Bucket, but I'm glad I did not know about that.

    • There was a locally-hosted Git server platform called Stash. Atlassian bought it, rebranded it as "BitBucket Server" (positioned similarly to GitHub Enterprise or self-hosted GitLab) and gradually made it look and feel like BitBucket (the cloud product), even though they're actually completely separate codebases (or at least used to be).

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which is ironic because historically the slowness of GitHub's UI was due to them not using much JS and requiring round trips for stuff like flagging a checkbox.