Comment by Xunjin
6 months ago
Again, you assume those people have choice, you definitely should search more how people on these jobs are pressured to reach quotas and are abused in many ways. A simple search on Reddit you can see plenty of reports about it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/callcentres/comments/1iiqbxh/the_re...
Abuses done by customers: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59577351
You always have a choice. These people aren't forced to work there. And they also have the ability to go whistleblower and leak internal docs that instruct them to abuse customers. Just as an example.
I know I would. If someone gives you a choice A or B that both screw you over, there's always an option Z somewhere. It might be so outrageous they don't expect it but it's there.
However usually it isn't necessary. I've been put in situations where I had to do something unethical. I've refused. And every time that choice was respected. Only if I'd have been punished for it would I have considered more severe options like the whistle option.
But really if you take a hard stand and have good reasons, reality tends to bend a bit further than I expected.
And yes I know what these jobs are like. I have worked in that industry a long time. I've seen both very good and very terrible employers.
And yeah customers can also be little shits but I've learned to disconnect from that very quickly. It's easier when they're on the other side of the phone. It doesn't help them anyway. And sometimes (especially if they're not just a dick but they have a genuine reason to be angry) there's ways to flip them around, in which case that energy might be harnessed and they can become your strongest ally. Another thing I've seen that I didn't expect.
I'm not fully disagreeing with you, you always have a choice. However, when the market has less demand for a large unqualified workforce, you have two choices, accept to work and earn money or go back to months or even years without a way to sustain yourself/family. Don't lose sight that these jobs mostly prey on a population that is vulnerable and often does not know their rights.
We could discuss in a sociological basis on how Capitalism today uses this workforce for degrading jobs, though requires a large dialogue that HN is not the place.