Comment by hvb2

There's 2 ways you can get to working software

1. Professional software engineers that can listen to learn about the problem space and are willing to come to understand that. This takes humility.

2. The people experiencing the problem. They might not write perfect code and it might not be maintainable long term. But their understanding of the problem and pain points is so good that they can solve just that and not write 90% of the code the professionals wrote...

I've seen this over and over again and can only tip my hat to the people that fixed their own problem. Just like for a dev, that means going into an unfamiliar domain and teaching yourself