Comment by Sohcahtoa82
16 hours ago
My wife and I took a road trip that included time in SF last year and seeing a Waymo was pretty neat.
To save some money, we stayed in downtown Oakland and took the BART into San Francisco. After getting ice cream at the Ghirardelli Chocolate shop, we were headed to Pier 39. My wife has a bad ankle and can't walk very far before needing a break to sit, and we could have taken another bus, we decided to take a Waymo for the novelty of it. It felt like being in the future.
I own a Tesla and have had trials of FSD, but being in a car that was ACTUALLY autonomous and didn't merely pretend to be was amazing. For that short ride of 7 city blocks, it was like being in a sci-fi film.
Why does tesla pretend to be autonomous? My friends with tesla fsd use it fully autonomously. It even finds a spot and parks for them.
The company selling the car is adamant that none of their cars are fully autonomous in every single legal or regularity context. Any accident caused by the car is 100% the fault of the driver. But the company markets their cars as fully autonomous. That's pretty much the definition of pretending to be autonomous.
It's a level 2 system, it can't be operated unattended. Your friends are risking thier lives as several people (now dead) have found out.
I think we are at the point where the data suggests they bear more risk when they drive the tesla themselves. See the bloomburg report on accidents per mile.
Wikipedia lists two fatal crashes involving Tesla FSD and one involving Waymo.
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Sources? Havent heard of deaths except total idiots sleepping at 80mph.
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It's just pretending to do that, seemingly?
If I can't use the center console to pick a song on Spotify without the car yelling at me to watch the road, it's not autonomous.
No, rather, if the manufacturer of the self-driving software doesn't take full legal liability for actions taken by the car, then it's not autonomous. This is the once and final criterion for a self-driving vehicle.
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That is for the lawyers not indicative of capability
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